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Well I am hoping this imitator is a female, but I am not sure.

What are your thoughts? It is not calling that I can tell and my other one is. The other one is also thinner.

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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

The only way for you to be 100% sure of the sex is: male- you'll see it calling
female- you see her doing her stuff with the male and eggs follow. Hoping that it is a female and posting those hopes here won't change the course of time/nature and make that frog a female.
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Updated list as of: 9/30/03
2.2.6 D. azureus
1.2.14 D. ventrimaculatus 'yellow' (16 tads in the water)
2.3 D. tinctorius 'cobalt' (one subadult)
0.0.3 D. tinctorius 'patricia'
0.0.5 D. auratus 'green/black' (tads)
0.0.3 D. imitator 'Alex Sens line' (1 week)
0.0.2 D. reticulatus (soon)
0.0.2 D auratus 'teal'(soon)

Damn... logic can be hard to take.

I know the other one is calling so we will see with time. If not then i'll have to look for a female.
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

Kyle...I'm sorry if my post sounded offensive or anything. I'm just not having a very good day and when I'm in moods like this, I speak pretty irrationally. I apologize.

-Bill J
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Updated list as of: 9/30/03
2.2.6 D. azureus
1.2.14 D. ventrimaculatus 'yellow' (16 tads in the water)
2.3 D. tinctorius 'cobalt' (one subadult)
0.0.3 D. tinctorius 'patricia'
0.0.5 D. auratus 'green/black' (tads)
0.0.3 D. imitator 'Alex Sens line' (1 week)
0.0.2 D. reticulatus (soon)
0.0.2 D auratus 'teal'(soon)

No biggy, i'm a blunt myself in most cases. Like I said your logic is dead on, just would be nice if it wasn't.
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

from what i see in the photo looks like a female. that is how mine looked until she got out of the tank some how.

Kyle,
If you could get a pic of both of them together it would be easier.I can definately tell my male and female apart but they are also over 1 year old.
Mark W.

I will try. I think they are a pair at this point, maybe just a bit young yet. The male (calling) is thinner, and not as pear shapped. The other one does not call and seem to respond to the other calling. We will see...
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

Kyle,
Reading your post below I bet you have a pair, start checking into dark places for eggs.Mine hide them good and usually I find them when the tad is on the males back,LOL
Mark

Thanks, and I hope so. I've been trying to watch them, and I think the male is trying multiple places to get the possible female to come to him. I have 3 film canisters in the tank and large plant that has a couple of overlapping leaves.
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

If it turns out not to be a female, let me know. I have a surplussage of definitely sexed females and need a new guy. Maybe we can make a trade next spring if we can get through the hassle of shipping a trade to each other via Airborne. You can contact me via e-mail: slaytonp@atcnet.net
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Patty
Lost River, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
3 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
4 D. leukomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos

Patty,
Sounds like a plan.It seemed like last winter was the "hot" time for breeding with mine.I hope this winter turns out the same.
Mark W.

Thanks for that offer, and I will keep that in mind. So far I think it is looking good. Also if they are a pair maybe we still trade. I would like to get another pair after spring maybe.
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Kyle
www.kylesphotos.com
Dart Links - still a work in progress
1.2.0 D. leucomelas
1.1.0 D. azureus
1.0.1 D. imitators

Late fall and winter seems to be the best breeding time for my imitators, too. They do seem to produce more females than males, or at least the females are better survivors. So far, I've allowed them to raise their own tads, which isn't an efficient way to obtain more frogs, and perhaps this also skews the ratio. Since mine are all related--originally four sibling froglets, 2.2, I'd like to get a male from a different blood line. Even though I've been told that inbreeding problems don't show up for several generations, I don't know how many generations it might have been going on before I obtained the frogs.
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Patty
Lost River, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
3 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
4 D. leukomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos

Kyle,

Yes, I would say that is a female. From your description & based on the picture I would say that is a female. I think you can change your ratio from 1.0.1 to 1.1.0.

Congrats!

Melis
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