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Help with tank setup........

Vel Oct 18, 2003 08:31 PM

OK I have a 10 gal. 2 Green anoles. Male and I believe female. I have long UVA B bulb up top with an under glass heating pad.

I want to get that green reptile bedding that looks like astroturf for the bottom of the tank, however I was wondering if it would impede the heat from the pad?

Is this enough heat? The thermometer reads a little above 75 degrees, tho' it's only been setup for about 45 minutes now. I would LIKE to get a basking light but the thing is, the way my lid is made, there's really no way to put on in there.

Replies (14)

Tim L. Oct 18, 2003 09:16 PM

Heating pads definitely aren't appropriate for anoles. You can't regulate the temperature with it. They're way too hot. The best are heating bulbs. Appropriate wattage would be 40 or 50 for 10 gallon, which I use. They'll bring the temperature well up to 80-90 degrees. Anoles are arboreal, and they should be basking on branches, but heating pads will attract them to the ground. Therefore, your best bet is to avoid all belly heat products and get some good overhead bulbs. By the way, what do mean there's no way to put it on there? I had absolutely no problem putting both the bulb and the UV on the top.

For the substrate, astroturf are bad, since the fibers are so stiff. Anoles laying eggs on them have been known to lose their limb circulations. Therefore, your best bet is to use organic potting soil, or bed-a-beast. Keep it moist enough to meet the required humidity.

Tim

Vel Oct 19, 2003 12:01 AM

OK, well how do you have your bulbs set up? I attached a picture of my lid. i have no idea where you'd be able to attach a bulb to it. please show me where. I want to put a basking bulb in there somewhere. Is there a certain size or anything I should look for to fit in a 10 gallon tank?

Also about the bedding..do you reccomend the wood chip type stuff or the moss? I was under the impression not to use mossy things so the crickets cant burrow away on the anoles. I also thought not to use any kind of bedding with small pieces so they dont accidentally suck a piece in when they eat.

And aboutt he heating pad, the thing with this is that it doesnt seem to heating the tank enough., After being on a few hours , the temp is still only at 75 farenheit.
my tank lid.

nasr_36 Oct 19, 2003 10:01 AM

remove the flourescent light coat (black plastic covering), and get a screen lid. Put the flourescent fixture farthest at the front, and a small incandescent at the top right, or left....should fit,

M.N
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nasr_36 Oct 19, 2003 10:09 AM

as for bedding, Tim already said potting soil or bed-a-beast should be fine. UTH's arent designed to heat the tank, only floor space...theyre designed for terrestrial's anyway. Anoles are arboreal, so they wont use it...

good luck,

M.N
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Vel Oct 19, 2003 10:21 AM

thanks for the tips.

nasr_36 Oct 19, 2003 10:50 AM

And just for the hell of it, this is how mine is setup

View from Top:

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Tim L. Oct 19, 2003 11:19 AM

That's EXACTLY how I set up my heating and lighting. Vel, you were using a fish tank lid, not a reptile one. The fish tank lid you have is exactly same as my 10 gallon fish aquarium. The reptile lids only have screen on them, without any flipping lids or plastic edges where you can cut pieces to put the tank filters or heaters. Fish tanks have thin plastic edges along the sides so that you can put the lid on it, but reptile tank lids are sliding. Perhaps you should get a different tank or a different lid.

Tim

Tim L. Oct 19, 2003 11:57 AM

Here are the pictures. This is the heating and lighting setup for my anoles:

Lighting and Heating

And here's my fish tank setup. Is this the one you have, vel?

Fish tank lid

Tim

lele Oct 19, 2003 12:03 PM

Hi Tim, when I went to your link it said unavailable so I went directly to your "pets" and saw a few photos but when trying to see a larger view I got the same unavailable message.

As for lights...both of you have the fluorescent at the front and basking at the rear. I have mine opposite. Is this strictly aesthtics or is there a purpose for this arrangement? Thanks!

lele

>Here are the pictures. This is the heating and lighting setup for my anoles:
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>>Lighting and Heating
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>>And here's my fish tank setup. Is this the one you have, vel?
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>>Fish tank lid
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>>Tim

el_toro Oct 19, 2003 12:09 PM

My enclosure used to have the fluroescent at the front and the basking at the back, but I reversed it at the last cleaning. My screen lid has an access door. It looked better before, but it was too difficult to reach all the way to the bottom of the cage around the little door. It's a 29g, so maybe that isn't a problem with the 10g.

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Tim L. Oct 19, 2003 04:31 PM

Hi lele. The links didn't work? Hmm, that's odd. It worked for me and others. I dunno... Anyway, it doesn't really matter whether you have the UV up at front or heating bulb. As long as they're fit on the top with heating bulb on one side, not at the center, it's all fine.

Tim
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Vel Oct 19, 2003 03:54 PM

yeah the fishtank lid is what i had and now it looks like your anole cage.

Vel Oct 19, 2003 03:53 PM

Yep i went and got a hinged screen lid with a 50 watt infrared heat bulb with the hood.

jawz Oct 28, 2003 06:56 PM

i just set up my anole tank a month ago and my flourescent is angled and i use a 60 watt nightglo bulb, it shines kinda purple, and i got it on the clamp so i get a nice 85 degrees on the basking spot. My anole seems to be adpating to it just now, I use bed a beast, no complaints with it so far as long as u have a spare bucket or the excess.

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