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I guess this is the place, need help with identification

Chris Carmichael Oct 19, 2003 07:50 PM

Cheers,

I recently was passed on these pictures of a pair of turtles that were dropped off at a wildlife sanctuary in Florida, without locale data/info. Initially they appear similar to a box turtle, but there are no hinges and they appear to be past the age when the hinges are developed in the adult. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Chris
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Replies (14)

Chris Carmichael Oct 19, 2003 07:51 PM

Another pic
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Chris Carmichael Oct 19, 2003 07:52 PM

Here's pic #3.
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Chris Carmichael Oct 19, 2003 07:53 PM

Here's the fourth pic.
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Chris Carmichael Oct 19, 2003 09:42 PM

I'll have to see what I did wrong, but I thought I cut and pasted the correct links. I did post the pics in the photo gallery under chelonians if anybody has time to take a quick peek (there should be four pics saying I will get back to everybody (unless it's just my computer that is not picking up on the pics?). Thanks, Chris

bloomindaedalus Oct 20, 2003 02:30 PM

No pics didn't post. You have them in the gellery?
I will look there.

Chris Carmichael Oct 20, 2003 06:37 PM

If anybody has a quick second to check them out and render an opinion I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance!

bloomindaedalus Oct 21, 2003 06:50 PM

still cannot find them in the photo gallery.
nothing under your user name.

Chris Carmichael Oct 21, 2003 07:03 PM

I greatly appreciate your effort in trying to find the pics. If you go to the Photo Gallery, then to Chelonians, then to Turtles, and then you should find my pics, roughly about the 12th-15th photos under ChrisCarmichael (no space between my first/last name....for some reason for the photo gallery it would not take the space). Thanks again for taking the time to check these out and I look forward to another opinion. If you still can't find them let me know and I'll just email them to you. Take care,
Chris

phwyvern Oct 21, 2003 07:18 PM

>>I'll have to see what I did wrong, but I thought I cut and pasted the correct links. I did post the pics in the photo gallery under chelonians if anybody has time to take a quick peek (there should be four pics saying I will get back to everybody (unless it's just my computer that is not picking up on the pics?). Thanks, Chris

Photos didn't post as you used the wrong url to link to. You were trying to link to the entire page on the photo gallery where each of the photos was housed on rather than linking directly to the photo itself. It can be thought of in terms of you were linking to the folder holding your pictures hence no pictures will show up in the forum posting because it's not a picture at all.

Example:

link you used:
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.pl?photo=106205

link of the actual photo you were trying to post: http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/15772turtle4-med.JPG

If you are going to be posting one photo at a time per post and are using photos from the photo gallery, it's easier to not use cut/paste method at all. Instead when composing your message look at the bottom of the screen right above the button you would normally hit to post the message...there is an area called "select image from photo gallery". When posting messages you can select any image you have in your personal photo gallery to imbedd into your message by scrolling through your list. (this sometimes gets cumbersome if all of your photo files are just letters/numbers from say a digital camera that you forget rename to something easy to remember and/or forget to title your photo submission right before uploading them to the gallery).

I will post the correct links for your photos on the other parts of this thread.
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PHWyvern

phwyvern Oct 21, 2003 07:05 PM

>>Cheers,
>>
>>I recently was passed on these pictures of a pair of turtles that were dropped off at a wildlife sanctuary in Florida, without locale data/info. Initially they appear similar to a box turtle, but there are no hinges and they appear to be past the age when the hinges are developed in the adult. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>Chris
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They are box turtles. The reason they look odd is that it looks like they are a bit on the deformed side in regards to the shell development (most likely long term nutritional deficiency). As to what subspecies of Terrapene carolina, that I could not say. I would think if they were indeed natives of FL they may be gulf coasts more so than easterns.
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PHWyvern

bloomindaedalus Oct 21, 2003 08:22 PM

The shell of one is flared. It looks like it might be a gulf coast. And yes they look like they were fed too much protein and or had lwo calcium and/or and otherwise inadequate diet.

Chris Carmichael Oct 21, 2003 09:58 PM

Thanks with the help/info on how to properly post the pics (and for actually picking this up and doing so) and for the input. Being in Ohio, and the turtles in Florida, I only had the pics and their description to go by. They were pretty sure they were an exotic that was released and then captured and brought to the sanctuary as they just looked a bit bizaare.....I would concur with the nutrient ideas and will pass this info on to them. Take care and great to see people willing to take time out of their busy schedules to lend a helping hand...greatly appreciated. Cheers, Chris

phwyvern Oct 21, 2003 07:26 PM

>>Cheers,
>>
>>I recently was passed on these pictures of a pair of turtles that were dropped off at a wildlife sanctuary in Florida, without locale data/info. Initially they appear similar to a box turtle, but there are no hinges and they appear to be past the age when the hinges are developed in the adult. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>Chris
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The corrected links for Chris's photos:

turtle1

turtle2

turtle3

turtle4

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PHWyvern

Chris Carmichael Oct 24, 2003 09:24 AM

I had one party suspect these might be helmet turtles....there are absolutely no hinges according to the sanctuary that currently has these turtles. I am fairly confident they are indeed malnourished box turtles, but could this be a possibility?Thanks in advance for any additional feedback.

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