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i NEED SOME ADVICE PRONTO PEOPLE PLEASE READ

junglehabitats Oct 21, 2003 09:10 PM

ok heres is a short synopsis of my situation.

Ok i have a Anery Boa , 1/12 weeks ago was feeding night as usuall , i proceeded to do the Neck seperation of rats for feeding of snakes. Now in this process these rats set out not in the snakes cages approx. 5 mins before going in cages to be fed at that point none ofthem were showing signs of any movement.Ok so i tossed in the limp rats into cages for feeding went about my buisness. came back and all appeared to have been fine with all rats gone. Now about 3 days later i noticed that my male anery had a swollen spoy just behind his right jaw. this was aboutthe size of a green pea . i pulled him out and made a observation of what appeared to be a bite mark but w/ only one puncture wound. at that time i was not "overly "alarmed by this as it looked very miniscule at best i proceeded to keep a close eye on him over the next week in which it became somewhat more swollen upto about the size of dime area over this past weekend. Now i have moved from my previous vet who was very knowledgable on exotics and that was all he did but he was 250 miles away so i called and got the supposed best vet in my area about 35 miles from me . i called monday in which i was told that she would be available tuesday ( today for an appt) i took my snake and went to her office where i proceeded to ask a few questions about her exp. where at the time i felt comfortable for her to examine my snake . she looked at him and said she would like to take a sample of the inflamed area since it seemed to be a infection and she could possibly get some fluid out and do a lab examine to it which all seemed reasonable.Well she too my snake and walked into the back where i could overhere her and her techs googling over how beautiful he was and how he was the calmiest snake they had seen in the office . she came back and explained how she used a hypodermic needle to draw some fluid and would have tests run to it for further information to it and prescribed Amikacin for the infection and proceeded to go into the way i should inject the meds into him now this is where i became irate with her . she told me that i needed to inject this medication DIRECTLY to the area in question which is the head of my snake which i questioned her logic of injecting a medication to a snakes head where her reply was that she was the one with the DVM in medicine and she knew what she was doing this was a injection of approx .4 milliters i felt very uncomfortable of how she did this and reluctantly paid my bill and left her office well on the 35 mile drive home as i got home and pulled my prized anery out to bring him back to his enclosure i was horrified to find his head swollen to the size of a ping pong ball and mouth severly swollen with gums puffed up and lips turned out , he is very larthargic and doesnt seem to be doing well at all at this point he is still alive at this point but to be honest i think he wont make it through the night due to this butchery by this so called "Vet".
If anyone here may have any feedback with the use of Amikacin injected directly to the cranial area of a snake and or any illside effects of this medication please respond . i will be calling my old vet first thing in the Am to see if there is anything that can be done if my snake is still alive in the morning
swollen head of anery
swollen head of anery

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Replies (2)

meretseger Oct 22, 2003 08:32 AM

I really agree that she was wrong in injecting the snake's face. Did she even figure out what the lump was? An abcess maybe? We can hope that that swelling won't interfere with the snake's brain and will just go down over time. Let us know what your old vet says.
(Sorry I don't have any actual advice)
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Peter: It's OK, I'll handle it. I read a book about something like this.
Brian: Are you sure it was a book? Are you sure it wasn't NOTHING?

oldherper Oct 22, 2003 09:13 AM

That doesn't look good at all.

I agree with meretseger. I don't want to second-guess your vet, but... I may have injected a very small amount of antibiotic at the infection site and injected the remainder either IM or SC, but I would not have put .4ml in it's face. That's a relatively large amount to inject in a snake's face....maybe .1ml, but not .4...

Let us know what the other vet has to say.

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