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I have this little rattler.. I caught it in N.E. Az. and at first I though it was a babay wdb but I started to second guess and thought it could be a mohave... I talked with a few people and they said the scale count inbetween the eyes are 2-3 for mohaves and 5-6 for wdb... This little guy has 4, my luck... Hybrid? or just an odd wdb?
thanks for the help... (is about 14" long, with a string of 4 rattles)

The rings on the tail and the color/pattern looks like an Atrox. They usually have a more dusky/mottled look to their diamonds and of course wider black bands on the tail. If you could take a picture of the side of his head or just look at the stripe behind the eye. If it does not intersect the mouth then it may well be a hybrid, Atrox it will, Scut. will not. Hard to say for sure.

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It is pure atrox. I'd be willing to bet that he's from the Val Verde co Tx area. From what I understand as well as from what I've personally observed, that locale is typically lighter in coloration. Nice snake either way!
Paul Bollinger
Bayou.Surreal.Reptiles

Sorry, I'm tired and I didn't read that you already had locality data on that snake. LOL. Definitely an atrox though. Looks similar to the Juno Rd. locality specimens I captured this year.
Reaching for the coffee,
Paul Bollinger
Bayou.Surreal.Reptiles

I did make a mistake on my orginal post I found it in N.W. Az not ne And I was so sleep deprived I dont even rember if it was Az or SW Nevada... It was a 4 day road herping trip, we went from Portland Or to Tusan Az and back in only four days so it's a little hazy...

atrox are not found in N.E. Az to my knowledge unless there is some undiscovered population on the Navajo Rez.

Clearly atrox. No hint of scutulatus.