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Hello everyone,
Well, I’m probably being a bit over paranoid but I am a big worrier as far as my pets are concerned.
I recently bought my first pair of baby burms and things seemed to be going pretty well. They both ate pre-killed mice twice in there first week 4 days apart. They were not shy about eating and did so with no apparent difficulties. They are the same age (about 1 month old) and I know the females are supposed to be bigger but mine is about twice as thick as the male and twice as strong at least. They are both in shed now, the female was starting to shed this morning and the male’s eyes are very opaque. When held, the female grips tightly and never slips. The male on the other hand doesn’t really grip to well and will occasionally slip. I thought that he was just a bit more comfortable with being held and didn’t feel the need to grip so much. Could this be the case? There temps are about 80-95 daytime and 75-85 nighttime. There humidity fluctuates because I spray manually. Id will drop to around 30% but top off at 70% for a while after I spray.
So that is there living conditions and status. My problem is with the male. This last scheduled feed didn’t go over well and he had no interest whatsoever in either live or pre-killed food. The female ate like the pig she is. He is officially off schedule by 2 days now and I’m already paranoid. Last night after I sprayed I noticed the female weezing a bit. I think this was due to the heavy moisture content in the air but I’m worried about RI since I know that would cause a snake to stop eating and since they live together, if she has it so will he. Could this be a shedding thing? Do they decline food during the period there eyes are opaque? Any suggestions, comments or reassurances (whichever you feel appropriate) would be very very appreciated. Thanks.

the female is Granite and the male is het for granite

If he is indeed shedding, he may refuse food, 98% of my snakes refuse food while they are shedding. The only 2 that wont are two female bps that eat like food is non-existant.

I would watch out for RI though, maybe seperate them until you figure out what your problem is.

Good Luck,

Joel

>>Hello everyone,
>> Well, I’m probably being a bit over paranoid but I am a big worrier as far as my pets are concerned.
>> I recently bought my first pair of baby burms and things seemed to be going pretty well. They both ate pre-killed mice twice in there first week 4 days apart. They were not shy about eating and did so with no apparent difficulties. They are the same age (about 1 month old) and I know the females are supposed to be bigger but mine is about twice as thick as the male and twice as strong at least. They are both in shed now, the female was starting to shed this morning and the male’s eyes are very opaque. When held, the female grips tightly and never slips. The male on the other hand doesn’t really grip to well and will occasionally slip. I thought that he was just a bit more comfortable with being held and didn’t feel the need to grip so much. Could this be the case? There temps are about 80-95 daytime and 75-85 nighttime. There humidity fluctuates because I spray manually. Id will drop to around 30% but top off at 70% for a while after I spray.
>> So that is there living conditions and status. My problem is with the male. This last scheduled feed didn’t go over well and he had no interest whatsoever in either live or pre-killed food. The female ate like the pig she is. He is officially off schedule by 2 days now and I’m already paranoid. Last night after I sprayed I noticed the female weezing a bit. I think this was due to the heavy moisture content in the air but I’m worried about RI since I know that would cause a snake to stop eating and since they live together, if she has it so will he. Could this be a shedding thing? Do they decline food during the period there eyes are opaque? Any suggestions, comments or reassurances (whichever you feel appropriate) would be very very appreciated. Thanks.
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>>the female is Granite and the male is het for granite
>>
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- Joel Smith

"If you're not part of the solution, you're still part of the problem"

>>If he is indeed shedding, he may refuse food, 98% of my snakes refuse food while they are shedding. The only 2 that wont are two female bps that eat like food is non-existant.
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>>I would watch out for RI though, maybe seperate them until you figure out what your problem is.
>>
>>Good Luck,
>>
>>Joel
>>
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>>>>Hello everyone,
>>>> Well, I’m probably being a bit over paranoid but I am a big worrier as far as my pets are concerned.
>>>> I recently bought my first pair of baby burms and things seemed to be going pretty well. They both ate pre-killed mice twice in there first week 4 days apart. They were not shy about eating and did so with no apparent difficulties. They are the same age (about 1 month old) and I know the females are supposed to be bigger but mine is about twice as thick as the male and twice as strong at least. They are both in shed now, the female was starting to shed this morning and the male’s eyes are very opaque. When held, the female grips tightly and never slips. The male on the other hand doesn’t really grip to well and will occasionally slip. I thought that he was just a bit more comfortable with being held and didn’t feel the need to grip so much. Could this be the case? There temps are about 80-95 daytime and 75-85 nighttime. There humidity fluctuates because I spray manually. Id will drop to around 30% but top off at 70% for a while after I spray.
>>>> So that is there living conditions and status. My problem is with the male. This last scheduled feed didn’t go over well and he had no interest whatsoever in either live or pre-killed food. The female ate like the pig she is. He is officially off schedule by 2 days now and I’m already paranoid. Last night after I sprayed I noticed the female weezing a bit. I think this was due to the heavy moisture content in the air but I’m worried about RI since I know that would cause a snake to stop eating and since they live together, if she has it so will he. Could this be a shedding thing? Do they decline food during the period there eyes are opaque? Any suggestions, comments or reassurances (whichever you feel appropriate) would be very very appreciated. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>the female is Granite and the male is het for granite
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>>- Joel Smith
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>>"If you're not part of the solution, you're still part of the problem"
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- Joel Smith

"If you're not part of the solution, you're still part of the problem"

They sound fine, and I think your theory that the male is just comfortable with being held is probably accurate. I have some that grip tightly and others that hang almost limp. Nothing to worry about, I'm sure. (is the normal burm het granite, I assume? The granite looks light, is it het albino?)

>>Hello everyone,
>> Well, I’m probably being a bit over paranoid but I am a big worrier as far as my pets are concerned.
>> I recently bought my first pair of baby burms and things seemed to be going pretty well. They both ate pre-killed mice twice in there first week 4 days apart. They were not shy about eating and did so with no apparent difficulties. They are the same age (about 1 month old) and I know the females are supposed to be bigger but mine is about twice as thick as the male and twice as strong at least. They are both in shed now, the female was starting to shed this morning and the male’s eyes are very opaque. When held, the female grips tightly and never slips. The male on the other hand doesn’t really grip to well and will occasionally slip. I thought that he was just a bit more comfortable with being held and didn’t feel the need to grip so much. Could this be the case? There temps are about 80-95 daytime and 75-85 nighttime. There humidity fluctuates because I spray manually. Id will drop to around 30% but top off at 70% for a while after I spray.
>> So that is there living conditions and status. My problem is with the male. This last scheduled feed didn’t go over well and he had no interest whatsoever in either live or pre-killed food. The female ate like the pig she is. He is officially off schedule by 2 days now and I’m already paranoid. Last night after I sprayed I noticed the female weezing a bit. I think this was due to the heavy moisture content in the air but I’m worried about RI since I know that would cause a snake to stop eating and since they live together, if she has it so will he. Could this be a shedding thing? Do they decline food during the period there eyes are opaque? Any suggestions, comments or reassurances (whichever you feel appropriate) would be very very appreciated. Thanks.
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>>the female is Granite and the male is het for granite
>>
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"If I had 365 enemies it would only take a year out of my life to settle all scores." Mia Miselfani

Nope, not as far as i know. she was listed as granite. do the granite / het albinos usually look different? i did have the opperatunity to select her out of about 15 other granites at PRAIRIELAND HERPETOCULTURE's booth at the illinois NARBC there selection was the best at the show and there price was way lower (by about 200) than any of the other breeders and all there animals looked like they were cared for better than the competition as well. i can definately say that her light color and broken pattern were what won me over. i'll be posting some close ups of her as soon as ai get my camera working. thanks for the help.

Funny you bought yours from them, that is where I bought mine from early this year. I bought a green burm from them, and the show in streamwood, they had those granties there, and if I had the room I would have bought one, they are good looking. Our snakes have a lot in common probably because they are from the same breeder. Although mine had problems eating, she ate for awhile, live, and would not eat pre killed or frozen, only live until she was about 4ft. Then She ate pre killed and finally frozen but when I unfreeze them I have to put it in warm water to make it warm and then she will nail it right away. I have worked with her alot. I think these granties they have taken great care of because its there first go at it. And yes there prices where much lower than what I have seen them for. Let me know how that goes, because I will be contacting them to get a granite soon.

I go to that streamwood swap every other week. i was a little dissapointed i couldn't fint them there last week.
anyway, everything seems to be OK, they both ate 2 mice a peice saturday night even though the male hasn't shed yet. i am a bit concerned still about the poop situation but this is the first time i'm giving them 2 mice so mabey they'll have a sample i can take to the vet in a day or 2. but all-in-all i'm relaxing alot more now. i think it's the fact of loosing 550 bucks that was worrying me, i lost big on a blood that i bought with RI! Had him 1 week and then he died. looked painfull too. that's my biggest fear with these guys. i'll be posting a nice close up of mini tonight.

Those guys from Praire Land are hunters so about this time of year they do not go to the show in streamwood. My burm was doing the same thing last night with the breathing thing, but she is good. The poop, my burm does not poop that often compared to my boa or ball, but put it in the tub with warm water and you see. My buddy looked after my burm when it was not eating and he was concerned because she did not poop for I want to say three weeks, but mine always poops after she sheds and its worse than my Rotts poop and my house, man you walk in you know what happened. I guess if I spent that much I would worry to, but I dont think there is a need for a vet. Keep me posted I plan on getting one of those soon.

Yeah, i've never been so happy to see poopp in my life Good gode! i think i need therapy after that smell. now i'm glad they don't do that all to often. thanks for the comments everyone but i need to go thow-up now

Ya, I think your being a little paranoid but thats a good thing, it means you care. The burm that does not grip on to you, I know what you mean, mine never does, she is now 6ft and still kinda just is a slug, but my boa cuts the circulation off, so I dont think that is un common. As far as the weezing thing, I know what you mean when I bought mine it did that, and still does it today every once in awhile, its only somtimes can I hear when she is out, I dont think that is a problem but maybe someone else has somthing else, I think its when bubbles come out of its nose and mouth but that may be to late. And yes, most snakes that are in shed will not eat, the reason I was told is because they can not see, and become very defensive when I see the skin start to dull I dont even waist a rat now a bunny to try to feed her until she is done. By the way I like that granite.