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Sonora Semiannulata

Sasheena May 29, 2003 04:24 PM

Finally got some banded Sonoran Ground Snakes to add to my collection of ground snakes. This first picture is just the "normal phaze"... at least it's normal for the Tonopah/Buckeye area in Arizona, a gray/green background with a bold orange stripe. These start their young life off with a tan body and black head, the black head fades and the orange stripe develops as they age. This is a young adult specimen, with the fading of the dark head still taking place. His name is Kinkee, because he was found in the school library, caught up in some tape. Apparantly he had a door slammed on him and has two or three kinks in his spine, perhaps from a broken back, but he is doing well anyway!

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~Sasheena

Kit, Kaboodle, Tantilla, Tantillas, Lightning, Kinkee, Maple, Licorice, Castle, Bishop, Queenie, Jester, Pandora, Phantom, Aphrodite, Athena, Hermes, and Lady

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Sasheena May 29, 2003 04:25 PM

This is one of the two banded snakes I got. I named them Kit and Kaboodle.

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~Sasheena

Kit, Kaboodle, Tantilla, Tantillas, Lightning, Kinkee, Maple, Licorice, Castle, Bishop, Queenie, Jester, Pandora, Phantom, Aphrodite, Athena, Hermes, and Lady

Sasheena May 29, 2003 04:26 PM

kaboodle

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~Sasheena

Kit, Kaboodle, Tantilla, Tantillas, Lightning, Kinkee, Maple, Licorice, Castle, Bishop, Queenie, Jester, Pandora, Phantom, Aphrodite, Athena, Hermes, and Lady

kw53 May 30, 2003 01:50 PM

as a worthy critter in its own right, and not just food for something else. I love 'em--kept a few over the years, and they are the equal of any coral snake IMO. I also adore Shovel-Nosed Snakes, Banded Sand Snakes, ringnecks--all the small, cool stuff. You sound like you have kept yours for extended periods. I don't have any Sonora just now; looked this spring, but no luck--too dry. Maybe I'll do better next year, or someplace else. I've seen DOR Sonora around Sedona, on the road between Sedona and the Village of Oak Creek on the 89A, near Bell Rock. Also in the Verde Valley near McGuireville. They were all the banded phase. Anyway, nice to know you're out there.

Sasheena May 31, 2003 12:42 AM

When I was a kid my brother had a snake, whom I liked, but that was the last snake experience of my life until I moved to Arizona to teach high school. Then one day I look down and there crawling on the floor of my classroom is a worm-sized snake. I took it home, learned what it ate, and kept it. Of course I learned all about it here on Kingsnake.com... and then I got to reading all the forums, and now I have many snakes! (1.2 corn snakes; 2.2 cal kings; 1.1 blotched kings 0.1 cb arizona mountain kings; 1.0 Rosy Boas; and 0.0.7 ground snakes).

After that first one I was given another one later in the school year by my students. That one refused to eat and I returned it to the wild. Almost a year and a half after I got the original one (first mis-identified as a Tantilla, so that is it's name), one day one of my students brought me an adult orange stripe. They'd found it wrapped in tape in the library, and it had obviously been slammed in a door at some time, had several severe kinks. I wasn't sure it would live, but I planned on bringing it home anyway. Later on that same day another of my students brought me another adult orange stripe, this one very healthy. So I planned to bring that one home also (Named the kinked one Kinkee, and the other one Lightning).

The next week another of my students brought me another juvenile the same size and coloration as my original ground snake. I named it Tantillas (since I wouldn't be able to tell it apart from the other one). At this point i had the two large ones in a ten gallon, the two small ones in a large critter keeper. Then my husband (also a teacher at the same school) had one of his students bring him a solid red one (She named it Mable, but I thought it was a male, so we renamed it Maple). At this point, with five of them, we decided to see if hte big ones would co-exist with the little ones in a 15 gallon, or if they would try to eat the smaller ones. They seemed to get along fine, preferring crickets to one another.

I had a friend who did a lot of herping in northern Arizona where they came in the banded phaze, and I suggested, if he didn't mind, picking me up some while he was out. He did, and I got them from him earlier this week. One is slightly larger than the other, so I named them Kit & Kaboodle.

They aren't as showy as the other snakes, but they are fun to watch chasing crickets around their cage, curled up in a multi-colored ball under cork bark, and other various and sundry fun things. They are really neat snakes, and worth a lot to me in small ways. For one thing they seem to think that the school campus is a safe place, and by my love-affair with snakes, I've been teaching both the maintenance crew and the students that they shouldn't be killed, but should be left alone, or if they are in a class, and in imminent danger, the students can give them to me.

I plan on putting a small container with some damp vermiculite in the cage in case any of them are female and planning on laying eggs.

Anyway, I'm rambling.

To keep this "OT" .... hubby was out on the piece of property we MAY be buying... saw a huge ol Desert Iguana. Too bad I wasn't there to take pics! Maybe next time
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~Sasheena

Kit, Kaboodle, Tantilla, Tantillas, Lightning, Kinkee, Maple, Licorice, Castle, Bishop, Queenie, Jester, Pandora, Phantom, Aphrodite, Athena, Hermes, and Lady

bloomindaedalus May 31, 2003 02:28 AM

Well
i like them too. I lived on the east coast for the first 25 years of my life and have been a turtle fanaftic as long as I could remember. At some point that drifted towards snakes as well. Of course there are lots of snakes to be in love with and these are not my favorites but pretty cool. In the beginning though, i was fascinated by the pictures of ground snakes I saw in the field guides (nobody in the east ever got to see a ground snake in the 1980s unless the went west cause nobody cared enough about them to sell them or even bring them back). i was amazed at the array of color patterns (this was before the internet and king and corn snake dealers, breeders made their big crzy splash) and that they were so tiny yet reportedly so common.
Well now i live in Arizona and I see them all the time. People bring them to me and i have tried giving advice or rearing them. But nobody hads been able to get them to eat crickets so far. One guy had success with a little centipede and another with what appeared to be some large aphids but crickets were taken by none. Any other feeding ideas (i guess this belongs on some other forum, sorry field herpers) contact me if you want to discuss

-rob

Sasheena May 31, 2003 09:00 AM

Here's a picture I snapped of "Tantilla" eating a cricket. Please note that he DOES look like a tantilla snake, but is in fact Sonora Semiannulata. To get an idea of his size, the bird skull in the cage with him is about one and a half inches from the point of the beak to the back of the skull. That's a 2 week old cricket he's chowing down on.

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~Sasheena

Kit, Kaboodle, Tantilla, Tantillas, Lightning, Kinkee, Maple, Licorice, Castle, Bishop, Queenie, Jester, Pandora, Phantom, Aphrodite, Athena, Hermes, and Lady

b1eagar Jun 02, 2003 03:31 PM

I find it is best to tear or clip the hind legs off the crickets so that the ground snakes can catch them easier.
Ground snakes also need a substrate which they can burrow in and feel safe.

My ground snakes eat crickets and centipedes.

reptilistt May 31, 2003 03:06 PM

Of your Sonora collection! Hehe

markg May 30, 2003 02:12 PM

I assume small crickets maybe?
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Mark

Sasheena May 31, 2003 12:14 AM

yeah, small crickets.

Fed them today (First feeding for the banded ones since I got them on Tuesday).

Quite the feeding frenzy. I have seven of them in a fifteen gallon aquarium, 2 banded, 2 orange striped, 2 juvies who will lose their black heads and are already getting their stripes, and one that is solid red. I was glad to see them eat. I did have one once who refused to eat and was returned to the wild.
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~Sasheena

Kit, Kaboodle, Tantilla, Tantillas, Lightning, Kinkee, Maple, Licorice, Castle, Bishop, Queenie, Jester, Pandora, Phantom, Aphrodite, Athena, Hermes, and Lady

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