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Well I have visited a lot of great sites lately. I have tried to build a care page that encompasses the best of the best. It is almost done (still working on the breeding section). I have to put in some illustrations and finish giving a few more credits to those marvelous people that have provided such a wealth of information. If you see something that looks familiar and don’t see a credit for it, please let me know. I tried to get all the names in.

If I missed anything or you find an error in fact please let me know. I am trying to get the page finished before Monday.

http://www.beardiedragon.com/pages/Care/beardiecare.htm

thanks
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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

That is awesome! give your self a pat on the back. That would have taken me a year to do. lol
Good job!
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Joel R

Coming Soon!
www.SpikesAndScales.com

trying hard to keep it at 50 pages
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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

"It is important not to have any peoples in their enclosure as they may taste them and then become impacted."

Are you quite certain I can't let my boyfriend live in the cage with my beardie?? I really think he's too big to cause impaction.

Thanks
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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

It looks like you put a lot of time in to that page, I'll be suggesting it to newbies on other forums as well.

The only thing that I saw that could have more of a warning was calcium based commercial sands.
"A calcium sand is commercially available, but it is expensive and needs frequent replacing since it is difficult to clean. "

These are especially bad because dragons tend to taste them more because there is calcium in them. Impaction city!!
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TheClassyLizard

good point. I added this line:

When you use a calcium substrate some Beardies may in fact make a meal of it trying to get additional calcium. This is very dangerous as it can lead to impaction and possibly death.

thanks for the input
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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

Incredible job. You put alot of time into this project and it shows. I agree with everything, especially what you have written about artificial UV lighting. By the way did you post a pic of a hatchling rack you rigged up? If so, could you post it again for me?
thanks
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Bill DiFabio
Azteclizard.com
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Thanks a lot, still working on getting all the pics together. Is this the one you wanted?

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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

yeah, thats the one. What are the dimensions(lenght x width) of the self. I think the manufacture has 2 sizes. I'm assuming yours is the larger one?
thanks
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Bill DiFabio
Azteclizard.com
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it's actually the narrow one 36" wide by 18" deep the other is 24" deep
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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

sorry, I'm a proof reading fool. Friends send me their stuff before they post it to their sites. Lucky you!

"If your dragon is heavily infested by parasites, it might be to late for Parazap to work".

Not so..Parazap worked on my dragons when the 3rd round of panacur didn't. In my case, it worked to rid hookworm, and faster. I think this happened to b22 also.

and..acidolphiliz is spelled wrong in a few places.

Another thing that I think may cause you some grief. When you copy/paste something from someone elses site, you should state it as a quote and credit them in the same section. It will be a pain to go back and do this, but you really should.

You have to remember that some of these people have worked hard on this info and a list of names at the bottom doesn't really give them proper credit because there is no way of telling who contributed what.
You can bet the people that you have taken the info from will notice this. I hope you asked permission.
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TheClassyLizard

If you see something that looks familiar and don’t see a credit for it, please let me know. I tried to get all the names in.

I believe that most of that info is published by others and from their site, which my internet law is copywrited, you need to have permission to quote them and also acknowledge it in the quote, like the species info is Hosers, the dosage conversions Rybecks, much of the feeding and other info is from Melissa's site and Steve Gernard and Liz Palika's books, some is Kathryn's Tosneys. I don't think you can take info and copy it without permission from them and acknowledgment right in the quote of theirs.... this is their research and can not be duplicated by others.

I appreaciate the thank you, but you also need to acknowledge your sources even if from emails, posts others web pages and that includes even added info to a copy..... like the 9th species.

Very true. You need to get permission and site the sources immediately after their info in the article. If you don't you could get yourself in some trouble.

Especially since some of it is copywrited..
I don't think I would name PETCO either..they may get a little pissy over that.
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TheClassyLizard

Great work! I am planning on getting a Breadie soon. My Leopard Gecko died a little while back and I am wanting something different. I have had an Iguana and my Leopard. Both lived long and healthy lives. Your care information is greatly appreciated!

Brad

Thanks to Cheris I was able to understand the nature of your caresheet Bennett. I unfortunately was not able to see exactly how you compiled articles, but I have a few comments to make based on my displeasure with what I have heard.

I am a moderator from DragonTank.com. While I cannot speak for any other members of that site, as a main writer for our KCS (Keeper Care Sheets) I must say I am extremely sad to hear that many of our articles were copied without our knowledge, with no more than a link at the bottom of the caresheet to reference us. Same goes for ReptileRooms.com.

Before copying articles again, don't just use quotes, but ASK the moderators of a website first. See if they mind your use of their words. Copying articles takes credit away from people who work very hard to keep their own websites popular, current and not to mention simply running.

When you copy articles, you also then represent the opinions voiced in those articles. If you feel confident enough to post such opinions with no worries of liabilty as a breeder, it would probably be in your best interest to simply write your own articles, based upon your own experience.

Please understand why I am upset. Please respect the work of other websites. It can be copied in 5 minutes to create a huge caresheet, but that is not fair to other sites.

I am not an author, researcher, scientist, or lawyer. I was just trying to compile the information that I have found to be useful, honest and informative so people who love Beardies as I do could get a better understanding of their pets. My time is valuable as is everyone else’s. My thought (I know better now) was to get some quick feedback and then make my revisions. Then I could let everyone who’s pages I used know so they wouldn't have to look at it over and over. My intention was to give credit where credit is due. I NEVER meant to represent any of the research as mine! In fact there are credits and links throughout to take people to the source of my information. I only highlighted what I believed to be some key points. I encourage everyone to go to the source for all of the info, not just rely on what I wrote. Obviously I went about this wrong as I have been told over and over. I apologize for any and all indiscretions on my part. The Page was taken down almost immediately after I was informed about the situation.

Again, My goal is to help educate. No more, no less. I thought I had given proper credit to those hard working, dedicated people who put together some great pages. I will get their permission before my page goes up again. If they don't want to let me use it, fine I won't. I just hope that people will find their pages without my links because it would be a shame not to share such a wealth of knowledge.

The information that was on my page was gathered from a lot of sources and I thought I credited them properly. I will try harder next time and I will get their permission first.

If anyone wants to email me personally about this matter, please email me at mail@beardiedragon.com

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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com