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I'm going to eventually expand my leo collection and I really like the Red Stripe phase leos. BUT, i cannot find anywhere that is selling them? Right now i'm just trying to find sources, and get prices. I've looked in the classifieds here, but couldn't find anything. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks

Hey,
Leos Anonymous ( www.leosanonymous.com ) has hets ! I think he is sold out, but if you dont mind hets, in 2004, he will probably have some more !( dont quote me on that, because I am not sure when he will have more ) lol

Nick
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Thanks for the link. Hopefully he'll have some actual Red Stripes for sale next year. I don't want to get into breeding quite yet, so I'm looking for something that comes with the nice red stripe. about how much will one go for?

. . . I remember seeing the Red Stripe male Ross owns - when it was up for sale at HQReptiles - it was BIG dollars (well, at least according to my wallet).

I know Ross promised to sell me an A Stripe for $40.00 plus shipping - right Ross? LOL

Seriously, they are going to be major coinage for an A Red Stripe. But the cool factor can't be denied!!
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Monte Meyer
Powergeckos
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No Fru-Fru morphs in the herp room

ya 4 sure.. any new morph is bank.. you gotta pay to be one of the "elite" few.. the cheapest way is to get hets and breed it yourself.. then everyone else will be the suckers knockin on your door for them lol. anyone remember when the first albino popped up.. wholly crap.. sell the house lol
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Jaylon ( bigJ)

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2.5 UKC registered American pitbull Terriers ( i had to add them

While there is debate about some types of stripe being a true recessive trait, Ross doesn't know if that holds true with the red stripe. He was using the term "het" in quotemarks, and has since withdrawn it altogether. All you know if you buy a gecko that doesn't have the red stripe that has one red stripe parent is that it has the genes lurking in there in some form. Whether it is a true recessive trait that you can have hets from is unknown at this time (from recent posts I have read from Ross and others). Whether this will prove to be a recessive trait you can have true hets for is just unknown at this time, and until it is known, it is bnest to avoid the use of the word het.
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
Sarah@stargecko.com
StarGecko.Com COMING SOON! Star Quality Leopard Geckos
Specializing in Hypotangerine Tremper Albinos

Breeding the Red Stripe line for the last few years, from its first humble begings with only one male and one female, I think we have a good idea as to weather there is such a thing as a 'het Red Stripe' or not.

In 2002 we bred our Founder male Red Stripe to an albino female, the results:

As you can clearly see in the picture we did NOT hatch a stripe or any jungle patterened geckos from this pairing. This is exactly what we expected to happen. As Ron Tremper states in the Leopard Gecko Manual: Banded pattern is dominant over jungle and jungle over stripe. To get a stripe both parrents have to be carrying the genes for stripe.

This season we bred the adults above together and hatched a total of four babies. 50% of this pairing resulted in stripe offspiring. If we look at the genetic make up, each of the geckos that hatched from these adults had a 25% chance of hatching striped (I think we got very lucky hatching 2 stripes). It is too soon to tell if these stripes will develop the Red Stripe colour, but we will keep you all posted on their progress and post some pictures when we are ready.

So is there the posibility of a "Het Red Stripe?" I would say that there is the same chance of there being such a thing as a "Het Super Hypo Tangerine." The Red Stripes have come a long way through selective breeding, just like the Super Hypo Tangerines and Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tails.

Now when breeding a Red Stripe to a 'normal' Stripe; everything changes! In the 2002 season we bred our Red Stripe male to a number of 'normal' Stripe females. The results are the Red Stripe being displayed in about 25% of the babies. We see the same kind of results when breeding Super Hypo Tangerines; take the best male and breed him to average females. Bingo more Super Hypo Tangerines. Because of this for the 2003 season we are selling Stripes from the Red Stripe Line but not describing them to be "Het Red Stripe," or anything other then from the Red Stripe Line. But they do have the genetics behind them to produce some gems .

I hope all that makes sense, I know my head is swiming

Thanks,

Matt.
www.HQReptiles.com

You probably know more about this morph than just about anyone.

So to summarize what I think you just wrote: the stripe line you are working with is recessive, but it appears the red part is selective breeding?
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
Sarah@stargecko.com
StarGecko.Com COMING SOON! Star Quality Leopard Geckos
Specializing in Hypotangerine Tremper Albinos

Being the founder of the morph, I sure hope no one knows more

Guess we should have called them "High Quality Reptiles Red Stripe Leopard Geckos" but thats a little long winded LOL!

We do have a complete history of the line and a bunch of pictures on our web site. You can see pictures of our past breeders and the progression of the line.

Thanks,

Matt.
www.HQReptiles.com

. . . and that makes me even more excited to see what happens this year with the stock I received from Ross in combo with some of my own. Even if nothing happens, it will still be a wonderful and exciting breeding season.

Matt - you've done oustanding work with this line - actually, quite a breakthrough. I hope everyone realizes what an innovator you are.

Question - did you expect/hope this to happen? Or were you looking just to breed a tang bodied, black stripe leo - and then this happened? I'm just astounded at the results.

In many ways, it breathes even more variety and possibility into the leopard gecko hobby. It starts us thinking of even more interesting combinations to attempt.

(If RT gets his black leo - could you imagine black with Red stripes - or white stripes - ooh baby)

Again, extremely cool morph. Great job.

Also - aces on the explanation.
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Monte Meyer
Powergeckos
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No Fru-Fru morphs in the herp room

"Matt - you've done oustanding work with this line - actually, quite a breakthrough. I hope everyone realizes what an innovator you are."

WOW Thanks, but I hope everyone realizes that there are two of us up here in the Great White North. I forget to sign Susan's name to the posts, but she has worked just as hard as I have and she deserves just as much credit!

"Question - did you expect/hope this to happen? Or were you looking just to breed a tang bodied, black stripe leo - and then this happened? I'm just astounded at the results"

Well, what we set out to do was to create a leopard gecko with defined stripes that were still defined when the gecko was mature. When we started out most if not all the stripes around had their patterns break up as the matured. It was in our third generation that the magic took place and we hatched our first "Red Stripe" Leoaprd Geckos. These guys hatched out with brown stripes and developed deep orange colour as they matured. As adults the stripes were very faint, but still visable, and they developed nice carrot tails. We now have many adults from our fourth and fifth generations that keep the orange/red stripes, and have great carrot tails!

I'm sure no one is more shocked and pleased with the results then us

"In many ways, it breathes even more variety and possibility into the leopard gecko hobby. It starts us thinking of even more interesting combinations to attempt.

(If RT gets his black leo - could you imagine black with Red stripes - or white stripes - ooh baby)"

Combination morphs are all the rage in the Ball Python industry, and with our sixth generation next season we hope to have some Red Stripe Albinos out. Our hope is that the Red colour will intensify as we remove the black pigment. Some day we hope to have an Albino Red Stripe that's stripe starts at the base of the head and goes down to the tip of the tail. We are almost there with the 'plain' Red Stripes, so it shouldn't be long before we have the albinos out! It sure is an exciting time to be breeding leopards!

"Again, extremely cool morph. Great job.

Also - aces on the explanation."

Thanks again, I can't wait for the '04 breeding season!

Matt and Susan
High Quality Reptiles
www.HQReptiles.com

Woah! I had no idea you guys were in Canada until you mentioned the great white north. 905, eh... nice to know there's such a high quality breeder in the GTA.

Have you ever gone to the Waterloo Herp show? I got my first every leo from a breeder there a couple weeks ago. I don't think I'll be in the market for another leo anytime soon, but I can't wait to check out the TO show. These things are addictive! And I suspect the TO show will be huge compared to the loo.

Nice website, keep up the good work. Maybe when I get out of univ. in a couple years I can afford a red stripe! hehe

Just out of curiosity, do you feed mealies or crix as a staple?
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Blaine

0.0.1 HY/Patternless/Normal Leo (Echo)

We sure are from Canada!

We attend all the Metro Toronto Reptile Expos.

The next one is November 23, can't wait!

Matt and Susan
High Quality Reptiles
www.HQReptiles.com

>>. . . I remember seeing the Red Stripe male Ross owns - when it was up for sale at HQReptiles - it was BIG dollars (well, at least according to my wallet).
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>>I know Ross promised to sell me an A Stripe for $40.00 plus shipping - right Ross? LOL
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>>Seriously, they are going to be major coinage for an A Red Stripe. But the cool factor can't be denied!!
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>>Monte Meyer
>>Powergeckos
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>>No Fru-Fru morphs in the herp room
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-Ross Payan - www.LeosAnonymous.com

Leos Anonymous

Ball Pythons, Red Striped Leos, W.Hognose and Screaming AFT's

Check you email

Many Red Stripes will be available in the coming months, but the waiting list is growing fast!

Matt.

http://www.hqreptiles.com

I didn't realize the red stripe was such a new morph, but I should have guessed with the little availability I found. Like I said, I'm not in a huge hurry to have a second leo, now I'm in even less of a hurry =) I'd love to have a red stripe, and even breed some day, BUT, not going to happen on a college kids income (college kids income = bank account - $$$spending 0 income) So when they finally do start to become more and more availible, I will buy one then. Thanks for all your help.