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Hi guys, for those who wants to know about philodryas venom, I have a notive: I have been bite for one P. olfersii an hour ago! LOL. I was hand-feeding my 20in males when he bite my forefinger. It is getting huge! I gona tell you any reactions I have. See ya!

Handfeeding your olfersi! YOUR NUTS MAN ;p

Good luck with the finger I hope its not too bad. be sure to check in.

Now, its completing like 17 hours from the accident. My hand its big ad I have local pain. Fortunately, It haves no signs of necrosis, that was my fear.

Very interesting..I have been bit by that species over a dozen times (without effect). P. veridissimus did manage to cause a reaction once (from a very prolonged bite). I ha minor swelling and discoloration for a week. Keep us posted.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Maybe your olfersii did not inject venom. Mine refused to let my finger...
After 26 hours, all my hand is swelling, I'm feeling local pain. And the pores of my hand are becoming dark by the effect of the necrosis.

Assuming this isn't a troll-post, you should get to the hospital. Local necrosis is the least of your problems. Philodryas venoms have a devastating effect upon the blood chemistry and bites can be lethal.

Cheers
B
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Dr. Bryan Grieg Fry
Deputy Director
Australian Venom Research Unit
University of Melbourne

www.venomdoc.com

Util now, I think its not necessary. Just on the time of the bite, I called a doctor, a friend of mine. He called the local toxicology center and they told him its probable that nothing serious happen been a so small snake. I'm in alert. Any changes I'll look for a hospital.

>>Util now, I think its not necessary.

Considering the fact that you have been bitten by a species from a genus known to have cause fatalities and that you have significan localised effects, I would think it would be a wise precaution to pop over to the hospital and get your blood work done. As I can attest from personal experience, being coagulopathic does not mean you feel it. I have had blood utterly unable to clot yet felt fine. This is the danger of these sorts of bites.

> Just on the time of the bite, I called a doctor, a friend of mine. He called the local toxicology center and they told him its probable that nothing serious happen been a so small snake.

And exactly how familiar are they with snake bites in general and this species in particular?

> I'm in alert. Any changes I'll look for a hospital.

I'd look now just to be safe since you are showing significant local reactions. Odds are you'll be fine but its up to you whether or not you want to roll the dice.

Drop me an email if you want to chat more privately.

All the best
B
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Dr. Bryan Grieg Fry
Deputy Director
Australian Venom Research Unit
University of Melbourne

www.venomdoc.com

They are very familiar with this specie. I'm from Brazil. This friend I told, have treated on this species bites, with no serious effects.

>>They are very familiar with this specie. I'm from Brazil. This friend I told, have treated on this species bites, with no serious effects.

Aaahhhh well then, that changes the scenario quite a bit. Hopefully your taking pictures of the bite as it develops and will be posting them here

Take care and keep us posted.
B
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Dr. Bryan Grieg Fry
Deputy Director
Australian Venom Research Unit
University of Melbourne

www.venomdoc.com

The local of the bite its not "monster" anymore. It s very few swelling, with local pain and some dark spots. I hope its get better for my kung fu class tomorrow.

Actually...The P.o. bites ranged from light to heavy chewing (I did not mention quick defensive bites. I felt the burn of venom but it lasted less than a minute for the worst one. (In fairness it has been said that I have a strong natural resistance to venoms...Bee and wasp stings have no effect at all on me). The P.v. bite was enhanced because when it got me on the finger the guy next to me (the owner) did the brilliant move of thumping it on the head and driving its teeth deeper into me. It was attached for over three minutes as I did not want to injure the snake by forcing a release. The specimen was over three feet. My skin turned yellow green and the swelling lasted a week with no pain.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Seriously, I dont believe that you have been bite by a P. olfersii(been injected the venom) and did not develop any reaction. Its impossible. With another olfersii I had, I have been bite twice with no venom injected, what probable ocurred with you. I felt scarried with the so fast swelling reaction. In about 15 min my finger get doubled its circunference!

If you are a betting man...you would lose the bet. I have recieved over 50 envenomations (rather than defensive nips) from various rear fang species from Philo's to Road Guarders (conophis) to Flying snakes and African sand snakes...etc. My normal reaction is to feel the burn for a few minutes and that is about it. I am also very resistant to pain killers and had the unpleasant experience of feeling every tooth I have ever had extracted. my resistance came from my father's side as he was like me, oblivious to bee and wasp stings. it's just lucky genetics. And I do not want to test it on a boomslang or any really serious venomous snake.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Hey mate

To convince him of your ability to withstand pain, why don't you show him that great mpeg of your favorite pasttime of getting an erection and charging into brick walls? ;-p LOL!!

Cheers
B
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Dr. Bryan Grieg Fry
Deputy Director
Australian Venom Research Unit
University of Melbourne

www.venomdoc.com

"Ouch" You be one sick puppy............(lol)
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

>>Maybe your olfersii did not inject venom. Mine refused to let my finger...
>>After 26 hours, all my hand is swelling, I'm feeling local pain. And the pores of my hand are becoming dark by the effect of the necrosis.

That's almost certainly not necrosis, but simply bruising and hemorrhaging into the skin - nothing to worry about in itself, but a sign that the venom is doing its work, and plenty of it.

Like BGF, I would strongly urge you to go to hospital for observation to get your bood chemistry checked out.

Just remember Karl P. Schmidt after his boomslang bite: he called work to tell them he would be in later that day. He had to renege on that promise on account of his death two hours after that phone call.

Cheers,

Wolfgang
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