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willegensis?

dunlax072 Nov 04, 2003 02:39 PM

I've read about this jackson subspecies, i was just wondering if anyone knows where I could find a pic, or if someone could post one, no reason really, just out of curiosity

Scott

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ChrisAnderson Nov 04, 2003 02:48 PM

>>I've read about this jackson subspecies, i was just wondering if anyone knows where I could find a pic, or if someone could post one, no reason really, just out of curiosity
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>>Scott

It actually isn't a subspecies. Its a made up name of a locality of Ch. j. jacksonii that were smuggled (named after the man who smuggled them) out of Kenya. This photo is posted on http://www.geocities.com/chamjacksonii/

Chris
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ChrisAnderson Nov 04, 2003 02:52 PM

>>>>I've read about this jackson subspecies, i was just wondering if anyone knows where I could find a pic, or if someone could post one, no reason really, just out of curiosity
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>>>>Scott
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>>It actually isn't a subspecies. Its a made up name of a locality of Ch. j. jacksonii that were smuggled (named after the man who smuggled them) out of Kenya. This photo is posted on http://www.geocities.com/chamjacksonii/
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>>Chris
>>Image
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>>Chris Anderson
>>parsonii_hoehnelii@hotmail.com
>>Chameleon Care and Information Center (CCIC) - http://www.geocities.com/ccicenter/
>>Chameleons Online E-zine - http://www.chameleonnews.com/

Just to qualify my statement, they were smuggled by a European and bred in Europe. If my memory serves me, the photo is of a willigensis male that came in from a shipment from Europe as a CB animal.

Chris
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reptayls Nov 04, 2003 02:49 PM

Quoting AdCham:

"Some specimens of C. j. jacksonii have been erroneously classified as C. j. "willegensis". The designation "willegensis" was reportedly the name given given to a smuggled shipment of C. jacksonii which was seized by the Dutch authorities. Not knowing the origin of the shipment, they named the putative subspecies after the alleged smuggler. For some reason, the name C. j. "willegensis" stuck but this was never a formal scientific designation and taxonomists now consider C. j. "willigensis" to be within the range of variation of the nominate form, C. j. jacksonii"

Quoting Rob Pilley:

"...the specimens of jacksonii jacksonii exhibited the blue background, yellow side stripe and black dorsal crest attributed in the pet trade to "willegensis"."

Hope this clears the confusion...
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