i have gotten conflicting stoys.. some say northerns are the biggest of the pines, other say different, the pic of the monster northern down there a few threads is pretty convincing.. do any of the other pines get that big?
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Jaylon ( bigJ)

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0.1 black pine
2.6 northern pines
12.68 leo's of all colors/morphs
2.5 UKC registered American pitbull Terriers a.k.a "the bouncers"