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I know i didn't spell that correctly. Anyway, is it safe. My beardie is young, about 8 inches or so...4 months?

NO - several possabilities:

If they are both males, the biggest, most aggressive one in the tank will be the lone survivor. Even if they don’t kill each other the stress levels could be high enough to make them sick.

Another good reason is bacteria and parasites. What is naturally found in one species and excreted out can pass to the other species and be harmful. Coccidia is thought to be a natural parasite (in minimal amounts) in beardies and is kept in ballance by the imune system of the Beardie; until it gets stressed or some other illness allows that to bloom and get out of control. A Uro may walk in the feces or consume something that walked in it and have no bacteria to combat it. Coccidia will then multiply quickly, in turn infecting the beardie.

The environmental and nutritional needs also vary. Animals may come from different environments (countries, climates, temperatures etc). Climates can even vary greatly, even for animals from the same region. A Uro requires a 115°F -130°F degree basking site. That would dehydrate and cook a dragon. There Brumation temps can also be substantially different.
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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

The reptile and fish store in the town I'm in has both several of each together in the same enclosure. I've never seen anyone upset with the other.

Well, I guess that sais a lot about the pet store. Unless they keep the lizards in a huge, and I mean HUGE, artificial environment, this is just plain animal cruelty, if you ask me.

Please do me a favour: If you're at all interested in your lizards' well-being, please don't even think about putting different species together.

pet shops do *A LOT* that should not be done with animals.....

a few examples:

fish, marine: damsels are super teritorial and will kill each other to establish teritorry. they may have a holding tank with 20-30 in a cute looking "school" but leave them there and watch how many die every day from having fins eaten by larger ones....
(most folks do not see this as the staff net out the dead ones)

also most pet shops sell animals every day so most of the time the dogs,cats,birds,reptiles and so on do not have time to stake out a teritorry, they are in a new habitat and need time to sort out what's going on.... so sure a mali and a BD may not kill each other for a few days / weeks but in the end one of them will suffer when they do not get the right food, temp, light or space to hide etc....
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Are you talking about the fish and reptile store in Cotati CA? Just curious cuz they were keeping beardies in with the uros.

terperature wise its impossible, uro's need basking spots of 130 and at the most young bd's need it to be 110, this is much too big of a temperature difference, becides they'd probably get really freeked out!
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1 mali uro - oni
2 bearded dragons- Trogdor "the burninator",Strom

Hi!

I haven't posted here in MONTHS, -some of you 'old timers' out here might remember me as "Joel" (before we started getting several of them!)
I'm now married and living in Toronto, Ontario Canada, and attending college for Web Page Design (but let's talk about BDs...)

Anyway, and without reading any further along the string for reiterating replies to the question 'is it safe to put a (Uro) with young beardie?', no, it is not.
Beardies are notorious tail-nippers and instigators of territorial aggressions (perceived by you or not, ALL beardies 'stake a claim' to some part of their cage and WILL defend it!), -and ALL uros are fiendishly strong and un-relenting when roused to anger, they will pursue and kill any aggressor.
Uros have killed many a conspecific of 'another specie' in this matter. They (uro) can wage an effective aggression upon a combatant bigger than themselves, -and usually (if not always!), WIN (read: 'kill the other').

I would advise against co-housing different species of reptiles anyway, -firstly, their heat/light/enviromental requirements are often non-congruent. And there is the ever-present risk of cross-specie vectoring of parasites (what parasite is mildly a nuisance in one specie, can be devastatingly deadly to another specie vis the 'natural gutload' of parasites in anoles tends to be 'dangerous' (okay, too strong of word, but "you should avoid this newbie error" to beardies that might eat an anole so housed with them...).

Anyway, enjoy your reptiles. Uros are kewl, and beardies RULE!

-Joel
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