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Who did you get that snake from and who produced it? Like everyone has said already it is very hard to know if what people have is "pure". I'm assuming that it is the same snake in both of your posts. The picture quality isn't the greatest so it is hard to get an idea of the color, but from the pattern and what I know of coastals (not as much as some) the front half sort of has a coastal pattern, but the back half doesn't look like one at all. Maybe you just have a very odd looking coastal which would be cool. If I'm incorrect could someone correct me.

>>The picture quality isn't the greatest so it is hard to get an idea of the color, but from the pattern and what I know of coastals (not as much as some) the front half sort of has a coastal pattern, but the back half doesn't look like one at all. Maybe you just have a very odd looking coastal which would be cool. If I'm incorrect could someone correct me.

There is only one locale of coastal(sorry I don't have my books with me at work and I don't remember what its called) that has a set pattern. They're light tan, with thin black banding around grey/tan saddles. Other than that, coastals can look like almost any other carpet out there. Single striped or partial single striped coastal specimens are fairly common(at least in LA and Colorado).

Also another thing that seems to be true is that the term 'coastal' often referes to carpets that do not fit any other description for other subspecies. I'd say over 2 thirds of the coastals I have ever seen (4yrs of herp shows/shops)come from questionable or unknown backgrounds. Meaning: it is hard to tell a mutt from a true coastal(if there is such a thing). Anyways, hope this helps...

Darci
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This is true Darci, but I thought coastal was a specific subspecies. I mean I thought Queensland carpet python is what the coastal means. Brian, I got her from Scott (LLLReptile). I was going to wait for a bigger one, but he insisted on how beautiful the coloring and patterns were on this particular clutch. I don't know what you mean about the bottom half not looking like a coastal. She looks like alot of other coastals I've seen. But she'll always be unique and special to me!
Joel H.

>>This is true Darci, but I thought coastal was a specific subspecies. I mean I thought Queensland carpet python is what the coastal means.

The line is very gray and you'll get diffrent answers from different people. Both Queensland and Coastal Carpet python are both refered to as Morelia spilota Mcdowelli. The biggest thing is that the number of pure locale specific carpets here in the states is very, very, very small. And there was close to 30yrs when all carpets (besides the diamond) shared the same genus. Which muddied the lines between subspecies even more.

Darci
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"The line is very gray and you'll get diffrent answers from different people. Both Queensland and Coastal Carpet python are both refered to as Morelia spilota Mcdowelli."

I know where to find Queensland on a map, but please explain the physical differences between a Coastal and a Queensland Carpet Python.

"And there was close to 30yrs when all carpets (besides the diamond) shared the same genus. Which muddied the lines between subspecies even more."

All Carpets (including the Diamond) are part of the Morelia genus and have been for quite some time. Perhaps you should brush up on your basic knowledge of taxonomy.
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