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I'm looking to get into Boa's and Pythons. I've had snakes before, so i'm not a beginner. I don't want a totally common one like a royal, or a red-tail. I also don't want something the size of a burmese, but i do want something that's large in girth.

I like Tree Boas and Pythons, Borneos, rainbows, dumeril's, Sumatrans, Salaysians, and some blood pythons. Basically things with alot of color. I just really want to know if any of these make good pets or if they are all bad tempered. any info would be great.

Thanks.

.. like a REDTAIL !?!?

Are you in the right forum to be dissing all the redtail keepers/breeders/admirers in here? Maybe you are not as knowledgeable on boas as you think?

Good luck with that!

Gus
Rio Bravo Reptiles

Gus,

Not everyone has the same level of expertise that you have. We must leave room for all levels of experience on this forum. I do not think the comment was disrespectful to anyone here. There is still a misconception today that "Redtails" include all Boa Constrictors. We know that is not true but lets cut the guy some slack.

>>Gus,
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>>Not everyone has the same level of expertise that you have. We >>must leave room for all levels of experience on this forum. I >>do not think the comment was disrespectful to anyone here. >>There is still a misconception today that "Redtails" include >>all Boa Constrictors. We know that is not true but lets cut the >>guy some slack.

I have to agree with you. He/she is merely asking questions BEFORE purchasing an animal, like we all tell new pet-seekers to do.

The one thing on his/her list that I have experience with is Brazilian Rainbows. These can be nippy as babies, but tend to calm down with regular handling. They are not the type of snake to approach from the head, like you can some super-calm columbians or BCI. Rainbows also have higher humidity requirements. I really do not have experience with any of the others.

My advice is to go out, read up on as many caresheets as you can. While not all caresheets out there are totally correct, the majority of them can be unbelievable sources of information.

-cat
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cgh

.. if I'm the burn-out with all the experience, I should say redtails are TOTALLY COMMON. Not So! I'm TOTALLY UP on them..

The other guy is the one asking advice and dissing us for keeping redtails..

AND.. of course I agree with you.. you are taking my note a little too seriously!

Be safe..
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Gus
A. Rentfro
RioBravoReptiles.com
www.riobravoreptiles.com

"Quality is not an accident. Perfectly healthy animals are a minimum requirement.. everything else is just salesmanship" gus

Read that from his/her paragraph.They wasnt dissing anyone for keeping redtails,they were simply stating they didnt want to have anything as common as a b/p or redtail simple as that.So where exactly did they diss anyone?The one thing that we as herpers thrive on the most is for people to actually be curious and ask ?s before buying,but with attitude like this who would really want to.The way you interpreted the dissing of redtails is like someone wanting to buy a honda because they dont want a ford,chevy,or dodge,(all very common vehicles) are they dissing those major companies just because they want something different (out of the ordinary),NO.Regards Bill McLeod P.s Real redtails are becoming just as common as the common colombians so again they also would be considered common (not everyone has one common but not a rarity either.)

read the thread.. don't take yourself so seriously.. I know I don't..

Be safe!

Still dont get where you consider him dissing redtails.As for seriousness,I dont even take myself seriously much less anyone else.Life is too simple to be so uptight and serious about everything.Now if he would've come on here and said i dont want redtails because they are ugly,then he would be dissing them but he plainly stated he didnt want anything as common as redtails,no where in that line was he dissing them.Redtails are becoming more and more poular and he just wants something a little more different and colorful then redtails (not all redtails are colorful but neither are some of the other snakes).Wasnt trying to disrespect you as a person but trying to show you the interpretation of the line.You still have beautiful animals either way. Regards Bill McLeod Life is too short to live it in seriousness and solitude,have fun,kick ass,and enjoy it too the fullest before its too late.

.. first run. But nothing beats getting it right...

You're problem (it's a minor one) is you don't know humor when you see it..

As I said, lighten up!

Gus

The thing about humor is,i'm a very humorous person but here lately on this forum as well as others you cant really be too sure.Not trying to step on anyones toes,just beating the bush so to speak.Anyway have fun.Regards Bill McLeod

.. boldly examine humor? Wherever and in whatever bush it may be found? How much sarcasm is allowed? (probably this is over the limit)...

wow......

I salute you!

Gus
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Gus
A. Rentfro
RioBravoReptiles.com
www.riobravoreptiles.com

"Quality is not an accident. Perfectly healthy animals are a minimum requirement.. everything else is just salesmanship" gus

That no matter how much of it you use or how you use it,it will always wind up being funny in its own way.So i say the more sarcasm you use for what ever purpose the better and more enjoyable life will be.Without sarcasm there wouldnt be no use for humor so it goes hand in hand.Heres a little sarcasm for you while we're on the subject,Bruised and battered my ego may be,I can still stand up and count to 3,After 3 i will come back for more,Just be wary of what might be in store.Humor is the best medicine to me,without it where would we be,Laughter and humility go together,Thats why i'll always be humorous forever. Cute huh. Regards Bill McLeod

Sarcasm can be funny among friends. When used when talking with those that don't know you or understand your humor you can come off as arrogant and like you are tweaking your own ego. As a teacher I have been trained that sarcasm does not belong in a classroom. It is hurtful and may cause those that are seeking answers to stop seeking answers due to resentment. This is a forum that I thought was designed educate. I don't think it was designed to belittle the uneducated for the sake of our own amusement. I am not saying that this was Gus' intent but I am sure it is the intent of some others.
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Jared Douglas

if you want something thick bodied, but not as big as a burm and you list bloods as a snake you like maybe you should look into the borneo bloods... there are some very colorful bloodlines out there.

i will agree with gus, there is nothing common about a real redtail.

whats more important what what you want to look at in an animal is what youre are prepared and able to offer them. if you dont have the time or inclination to devote alot of time, then you need to study your care sheets and find the animal with the lowest amount of husbandy requirements. if youre ready to turn a room around into climat controlled enviroment for snakes only, then go nuts, get something challenging. just remember, you get what you get and the animal is your responsibility.
find the animal youd like to keep based on looks, then read and read and READ, if you can deal with the requirments go for it, if not, pick something else.
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recycle your pets

I would consider a Cay Caulker BCI(Boa Constrictor Imperator). Cay Caulkers stay relatively small and are a gentle animal. Max length is 5-6 feet. They grow slow the first year but are a joy to own. I have one and he is awesome. Born on Stevie Ray Vaughans' Birthday so I named him "Little Stevie". Just turned 1 year old last month and still only 2 feet long. They tend to be more gray than brown, almost Anery in color. They are not common at all. Only 2 breeders that I know of. Not that I know that much. HaHaHa. Cost about $200 shipping. Have fun and enjoy the hunt !!!

>>I would consider a Cay Caulker BCI(Boa Constrictor Imperator). Cay Caulkers stay relatively small and are a gentle animal. Max length is 5-6 feet. They grow slow the first year but are a joy to own. I have one and he is awesome. Born on Stevie Ray Vaughans' Birthday so I named him "Little Stevie". Just turned 1 year old last month and still only 2 feet long. They tend to be more gray than brown, almost Anery in color. They are not common at all. Only 2 breeders that I know of. Not that I know that much. HaHaHa. Cost about $200 shipping. Have fun and enjoy the hunt !!!

I have a Cay Caulker as well-really nice little boas. Mine is slowly turning more white and silver as she ages.

I have my crawl cays too, they came from Russ Mercado. Beautiful little ones!

-cat
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