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Poisoned/Seriious

turtlesong Nov 09, 2003 05:35 AM

Froggie got poisoned but is doing all right now yet. . .was it a slug?

Don't know need some advice. . .he went into convulsions, couldn't swim, turned over on his back and was bloated terribly.

Took him to the vet and now back home doing better but I don't know what to do now.

BTW American baby bull frog.

Replies (9)

snakeguy88 Nov 09, 2003 02:39 PM

Sounds like toxicity to me. Could be from something like the slug, could be from something in the water, could be from buildup of urates or debris in the substrate. Either way, keep the frog on wet, warm paper towels for a while in a low traffic area of the house with background on ALL sides to minimize stress. But bottom line, something got into the frog that is not supposed to be there. What kind of water do you use?
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turtlesong Nov 09, 2003 09:57 PM

Thanks a lot of replying and I USE TAP WATER for my frog; have a heater and few rocks and plants for him to hide in and have a bright light sun lamp. I PUT HIM BACK IN THE SAME TANK and think he's doing fine.

So actually you mean he might've had "INDIGESTION?" I THINK IT WAS THE SLUG but now he's really not eating and looking kind of bloated still. But WHY DAMP PAPER TOWELS? IS THIS A COMMON ILLNESS OR FORM OF BEHAVIOUR FOR FROGS?

amazinglyricist Nov 10, 2003 01:02 AM

Damp paper towels is to keep the enclosure sterile. And you need to use dechlorinated/ dechloramined water for amphibians since they absorb water through their skin and are sensitive to the chemicals in the water.
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turtlesong Nov 10, 2003 04:07 AM

I haven't yet been able to use damp towels since this will not work in my type of enclosure. I've got him in an aquarium full of six inches of water. Of course he has dry land etc.

I think it was the slug anyway. But he's still looking a little pale. Could the slug have infected the water too? I don't think so, but let me know.

How long should I wait(if it was the slug that poisoned him and not the water) until he should eat again? It's been three days, so I'm not sure. I might have to force feed him

Poor creature. Hope he makes it.

snakeguy88 Nov 10, 2003 03:35 PM

It could have been ingestion...but then again, it might not have. I hope you have a very good (and quite expensive) canister filter for the tank to keep it clean. Tap water could cause the problem as well. Too many metals and what not in it. There could be quite a few things that could cause it. Remember frogs are like a sponge. Anything around them can and will be absorbed. That includes EVERYTHING in the water or the substrate. Andy
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ginevive Nov 10, 2003 11:16 AM

If your frog has in fact been exposed to a toxin, you could try putting it in a smaller tank with an inch or so of water, and changing that water as often as possible (like three times a day would be ideal.) This would help the frog to soak itself and "soak out" the toxin. I had a leopard frog which accidentally came in contact with "bug bomb" stuff after our landlord used it in the basement, and after a few weeks the frog stopped convulsing and she is actually still alive today.
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turtlesong Nov 10, 2003 07:11 PM

I see your points but now it's winter and I'm afraid the frog might catch a cold if I change tanks without a heater. I'll definitely see what I can do, however. He's stopped convulsing but. . .what about eating?

cheshireycat Nov 13, 2003 07:22 AM

You can't run water hot out of the tap? Sorry if I don't know what "cold weather" means to running water because I'm in Florida, but what Gin is recommending is truly the best and only thing you can do right now.
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amazinglyricist Nov 11, 2003 11:10 AM

Hey, be careful feeding caterpillars too, some of them are poisonous and or have irritants that make anything that eats them sick.
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