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I'm sure this will spark alot of flaming, but I have to say- it is a shame what's going on with BrB's - the quality is really just getting bred out of these snakes- animals are getting cheaper and cheaper... I went to the Westchester show and the lack of high quality rainbows was appalling- so was the presence of many bargain priced unnatractive animals.....

well, that's my piece- let's see what response comes of this

I know, I've seen an amazing amount of low-quality Brazilian Rains lately. Particularly in pet stores. I have yet to find a Brazilian Rainbow boa that is a nice orange or red and not mud-colored brown in a pet store. And the ugly Brazilians are starting to show up at shows, too. Who is breeding these things???!

I don't know what is going on, but the shows ARE getting very bad- I literally didn't see one animal that was a smidgeon beyond dissapointing. I am getting so impatient- I can't wait to breed mine- I was lucky enough to get two incredible animals from two seperate bloodlines and when these two throw babies, at least it will be something awesome again- it's been a very long time since I saw a BRB that just made me go "wow"

Just wait until some new Rainbow boa morphs start to show up in one or two years from now, Rainbow boas are going to get really really more interesting.

>>I don't know what is going on, but the shows ARE getting very bad- I literally didn't see one animal that was a smidgeon beyond dissapointing. I am getting so impatient- I can't wait to breed mine- I was lucky enough to get two incredible animals from two seperate bloodlines and when these two throw babies, at least it will be something awesome again- it's been a very long time since I saw a BRB that just made me go "wow"
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Jeff- my boy is going through a shed actually... Soon I'm going to post some pics, but they still have a little bit before they get going breeding wise. I'm very pleased with the beautiful animals they've become though- my boys dad was the absolute prettiest BRB male I have ever seen- he was an orange phase, but very close to red- I like to call him perfect phase. The most pronounced sheen I've ever seen- in person you almost didn't think he was real. I've got my boy teamed up with a lighter red phase female- her crescents are very vivid with nice bright orange/yellow middles- I can't wait to see what they produce- I'll post pics once he is out of shed... but meanwhile, I'm in no rush- I want to make sure the animals are fully ready and not push anything- WAY way too much of that going around- which is why there are so many inferior quality animals running rampant- whatever happened to breeding for quality?? Are you literally one of the last guys left? I've seen your animals and thankfully, I'm still very inspired by what you've contributed to the BrB world- wonderful animals. I just can't wait to get my guys going, but I'll be as patient as I have to- my goal is purely quality, not quantity or cash...

Sunspark,
. I usually do not see good looking BRBs in pet stores. I have seen some good ones on the kingsnake.com boa classifieds though. I have not been to any shows since the NRBE in Daytona. There were some good ones and some plain ones there.
Jeff

>>I know, I've seen an amazing amount of low-quality Brazilian Rains lately. Particularly in pet stores. I have yet to find a Brazilian Rainbow boa that is a nice orange or red and not mud-colored brown in a pet store. And the ugly Brazilians are starting to show up at shows, too. Who is breeding these things???!

I will have to concur on this thread. I have been looking for an above average BRB for almost 8 months and have gone to two shows in Florida only to be disapointed. I wont even get into the quality of snakes at the pet stores. The overwhelming majority are UGLY, with either washed out colors or no coloration and irridecence. It is a shame. They are just preying on the uninformed or spontaneous noob. Funny thing is the pet stores actually want $150.00 - $200.00 for these same ugly snakes!

Anyway, Ifinally found one that I like after 8 months or searching and will post pictures next week once I get her, lets see if she is as nice as the JPEG I recieved. Jeff, make more BRB's, LOL.

I have a pair of those BRB's you are likely to be making the comments about. Not so pretty as far as BRB's go. Orangish brown, just plain snakes. The only place I knew to go to as an average person with only the knowledge of owning a corn for 12 years was the petstore. Brb's are not available here. You never see them in the stores here in Lubbock Texas. I simply didn't know that there was a whole herp community waiting to be explored. I bought the first pair I have from that store and came home and spent hour after hour trying to figure out I was supposed to do for them before I even brought them home. I didn't trust what the store told me and very little info could be found.

Rambling on, anyway my snakes bred unintentionally, and I sold a litter of those not so pretty snakes to a wholesaler.

The difficulty I am having is not knowing who to trust to purchase snakes that are more appealing. I don't know how they will change from a neonate to an adult. I purchased mine as "2 or 3 years old".

Breeding was such am awesome thing that I want to do it again. I have been looking at ads for 10 months for another pair and am not satisfied, or when I am the seller does something that makes me cancel.

I don't consider myself a breeder at this point. But am interested in quality and reputation rather than money.

I have learned alot these last 18 months and hope that you qualified breeders will share your experience so us greenies can learn to do things correctly.

Linda

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer

>>I have a pair of those BRB's you are likely to be making the comments about. Not so pretty as far as BRB's go. Orangish brown, just plain snakes. The only place I knew to go to as an average person with only the knowledge of owning a corn for 12 years was the petstore. Brb's are not available here. You never see them in the stores here in Lubbock Texas. I simply didn't know that there was a whole herp community waiting to be explored. I bought the first pair I have from that store and came home and spent hour after hour trying to figure out I was supposed to do for them before I even brought them home. I didn't trust what the store told me and very little info could be found.
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>>Rambling on, anyway my snakes bred unintentionally, and I sold a litter of those not so pretty snakes to a wholesaler.
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>>The difficulty I am having is not knowing who to trust to purchase snakes that are more appealing. I don't know how they will change from a neonate to an adult. I purchased mine as "2 or 3 years old".
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>>Breeding was such am awesome thing that I want to do it again. I have been looking at ads for 10 months for another pair and am not satisfied, or when I am the seller does something that makes me cancel.
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>>I don't consider myself a breeder at this point. But am interested in quality and reputation rather than money.
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>>I have learned alot these last 18 months and hope that you qualified breeders will share your experience so us greenies can learn to do things correctly.
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>>Linda
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>>"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer

Hope this works, first time posting picture. I will post some more next week.

You know ive also noticed that sometimes when it comes to older or yearling brb's in some pet stores are actually columbians that are losing it pattern. I even called a major delaer online (name withheld0 about one of there rainbows for sale. they said it was a brb but when i called they found out it was a columbian.
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0.0.1 Childrens python
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow boa
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