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Carrot-tail or carrot-tail-wanna-be? Let the opinions fly

Leopard fan Nov 10, 2003 11:14 AM

It's been ages since I last posted here, but I thought this might be worth a shot....

There seems to be a lot of confusion between what is and what isn't a carrot-tail leo.
I've used tails from some of my own breeders or their offspring to illustrate the differences - and it's easy to tell, once you've seen a few....

(full-sized picture here - big file )

You can call your leopard(s) anything you want, but if you want to be technical about it, carrot-tails should have 'true carrot-tail' genes from the Ray Hine line (the original breeder). As you can see in the picture, there's a big difference between 'lots of orange in the tail' and 'carrot-tail'. It's almost like the old Kleenex controversy - we ask for a Kleenex, but will take any brand of facial tissue. The true carrot-tails are the Kleenex brand, but regular leos with lots of orange on their tails are Brand X. True carrot-tails also have a different shade of tangerine in their body colour, and most seem to have a more slender build as well. They almost seem long and slim, though with all the cross-breeding to non-carrot-tails, the body shape is becoming stouter and shorter. The dark or black tail bands in regular leopards is light grey or even absent in true carrot-tais, though it can be dark in carrot-tail crosses.

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powergeckos Nov 10, 2003 12:00 PM

. . . were your ears burning - because I was just talking about you with a friend and lamenting your absence from the leo forum.

Nice pictures and distinction. Thanks.
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Monte Meyer
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armiyana Nov 10, 2003 01:23 PM

Very good job illustrating the morph =3

And the part on CTs being slender...I'm having so much trouble trying to put weight on my female for breeding season. She's just long and thin.

TebbyGecko Nov 10, 2003 01:28 PM

Ron has a round little tummy, but geez.. you'd think her tail would be massive. She has enough heat to digest and isn't sick or anything, that I am aware of. Ah well.. I guess maybe when she's done growing she'll put some more weight on. She's at the 7 month mark right now. Long and kind of thin looking.. I'll show you what I mean.

-Britney

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powergeckos Nov 10, 2003 01:33 PM

Britney - that is a fine size for a leo that age. They do get gangly during the sub-adult stage. I would just keep feeding her - soon she will plump out - but in all honestly, she looks very good right now.

Personally, I think some of these leos are obese - with their overstuffed booties.

I think the key to keeping your female healthy during breeding season is taking out the male after they first lay eggs. I'm going to be doing that more this season - because I have some males that nearly worry and breed the females to death. Keeping them alone after they are gravid will give them more of a chance to feed.

Just my opinions though - because I have a pair that I leave in year round - they just know when to do it and when to stop.

Good luck.
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bigj Nov 10, 2003 03:50 PM

very well said.. and it needed said.. there are far too many "carrot-tails" bieng passed off on the unaware, good job on giving credit where credit is due, Ray's line of geckos are the real deal.. thats about the only place to get the real ones, unless you know a trustworthy breeder who got stock direct. great pics too.
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Tim L. Nov 10, 2003 07:03 PM

Great tails!! The carrot-tail coloration are brilliant.

Tim
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