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The sun was right for pics.....so............

Brandon Osborne Nov 10, 2003 02:19 PM

Here goes nothing. I just wish the KS gallery was a little more crisp. Seems like the pics lose a little clarity once they're uploaded. Oh well. Here's one of this year's offspring.

Brandon Osborne

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Brandon Osborne Nov 10, 2003 02:21 PM

A neat little red guy with a nice black stripe and white diamonds. This one is starting to show lots of black on the head too........can't wait to see what he looks like in a few months.

Brandon Osborne

Brandon Osborne Nov 10, 2003 02:24 PM

Actually his yellow is much more like cheese than lemon........hence the name "Velveeta". A super-sweet male going on 3 years old.

Brandon Osborne

Julian Garcia Nov 11, 2003 11:47 PM

I hate you....

Brandon Osborne Nov 12, 2003 01:47 AM

Man, I just read the hemo part too. I better watch my back. lol. I take that as an envious compliment.

thanks
Brandon

Brandon Osborne Nov 10, 2003 02:27 PM

Sprite. Another holdback going on 3. A sweet girl growing up.

Brandon Osborne

Julian Garcia Nov 11, 2003 11:49 PM

what are the background on these fine fine animals Brandon.... and if you taunt me with velveeta again im going to stab you with a pair of hemostats.

Brandon Osborne Nov 12, 2003 01:43 AM

as told to me by Damon Salceies. The adults that produced these offspring, are grandchildren of the adults that produce the original Lemon Tree chondros that Tim Turmezie owns. Craig Trumbower of Lakeland, FL was present when Tim purchased the juviniles from Price(?) or whoever it was. Craig pick animals from the same clutch(es), which are the parents of my adults. I bought my original pair from Craig at the 1999 NRBE the last year it was in Orlando. They were adults when I got them, and had bred for several months without any production.

It wasn't until last year that I did my research on the background of the animals. The few High Yellow animals produced, clued me in that this bloodline was one to hang on to. That's when I contacted Damon, because he was the one that actually sold the animals to me at the expo.

From what I understand, Craig's pair has also produced several animals with 70% yellow. In Damon's own words.........."you have some great blood there." That's about all I know.

I have the email somewhere. If I can find it I'll post the details.

Brandon Osborne

Damon Salceies Nov 13, 2003 02:58 PM

Hi Brandon,

The animals you bought from Craig at the show in Orlando were progeny to an adult pair that Craig bred several times. His adults were obtained as babies through Bill Love and had genetic ties to the Steinhardt Aquarium and Sedgewick County zoo in Kansas. Some of Craig's offspring (siblings to your adults if I'm not mistaken) were purchased by Tim Turmezie and were incorporated into Tims projects. From what I understand, they weren't the founder stock for the line, but did contribute genetically to his Lemontree projects. Craigs animals were likely the product of animals imported from PNG many years ago. They had a propensity for producing VERY variable polymorphic clutches and produced some of the best high yellows around at the time. The females very often go and stay blue after reproductive bouts. Moreso than many I have seen since, that lineage has a myriad of impressive traits wrapped up in one package. There's serious potential there! Good work in expanding the group!
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Brandon Osborne Nov 13, 2003 05:51 PM

Thanks Damon,

I guess I misunderstood the info you sent me. I was under the impression that these animals were offspring from adults related to Tim's Lemons. Thanks for the clarification. The first clutch has shown to be very poloymorphic, and by the looks of the second, it will be the same. I looked for the info you sent, but couldn't find it......I know I've got it somewhere. I'd like to make some sort of pedigree for the animals I have. Thanks again for the info.

BTW, how is the Paradox project going?

Brandon Osborne

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