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apparently the stress from being egg bound and the "C" section she had yesterday in an attemt to save her was just too much. my wife had been watching and caring for lily all day. about 3 pm she called and said lily is moving very little if at all and is unreponsive. i got home about 5pm to find her eyes sunken in and a pale orange and black. i touched her and she to make sure and she was cold and dead. we are pretty disappointed, she is definatiely my favorite. i gotta find me a "lilytoo" now.

dennis

I'm so sorry to hear that
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From Sunny Florida
Jovana's kids listed below
1.1 Veileds
1.0 Ambanja Panther
1.1 Tamatave Panther

...is she that new female you acquired a month or two ago?

yeah she's the the one.

dennis

Dennis-

Sorry to hear the bad news. The eggs that were removed were they all a uniformed shape and well calcified? Also how many holes did she dig, and how deep were they, and how long of a period was she digging for? Best wishes!
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john the eggs all are bright white and are a bit soft(kind of like a grape)but firm, if that makes any sense. she dug about 4 or 5 holes, most were about 4 or 5 inches deep. the last one she dug was probaby 10 inches deep. all the holes she dug were in the same spot too. she was digging for about 4 days. i'm down but not out i'll just get another nosey girl.

i'm thinking my main problem was her nutrition and supplementation...or lack of for being gravid. i am definately wiser now.

dennis

Sorry to hear the bad news. The eggs that were removed were they all a uniformed shape and well calcified? Also how many holes did she dig, and how deep were they, and how long of a period was she digging for? Best wishes!

The same thing happened to my Veiled (Lelo) when she tried to lay a second clutch with sperm retained from the first clutch.
She became eggbound (we had x-rays) and stayed that way acting and eating normally for over six months before she died. We opted not to get the c section since most of them don't make it after that procedure. We hoped instead she would lay the eggs, which actually she did about 3 days before she died. The stress of being eggbound that long was too much for her.
I wish you better luck with the next one.
Sonia

Dennis I am SO sorry!!!!!!!!! My heart breaks for you! Just remember that you did everything you possibly could - and we are all witness to that. I wish I could say or do more - lele

>>apparently the stress from being egg bound and the "C" section she had yesterday in an attemt to save her was just too much. my wife had been watching and caring for lily all day. about 3 pm she called and said lily is moving very little if at all and is unreponsive. i got home about 5pm to find her eyes sunken in and a pale orange and black. i touched her and she to make sure and she was cold and dead. we are pretty disappointed, she is definatiely my favorite. i gotta find me a "lilytoo" now.
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>>dennis
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles (Jaida, no name)
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - (still no names)

Dennis,

We are very sorry to hear this sad news.
Please accept our heartfelt condolences.
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we are so sorry!

Jade just become gravid, and we've been scared it's going to be hard on her. She was a rescue from a pet store, and she was just getting to be in perfect health when she became gravid. Now she won't drink, eats a whole lot less, and by the time she goes to the feeder cup, all the dust is off the crickets .... we're really worried about her.

were her eggs infertile? or was she mated?

Dennis...

I am so sorry to hear this!

I know i was completely heartbroken when Ratchett died about 4 months ago... Please accept a huge hug from texas!

Dont give up, i know you loved her and i know you'll do right by her by getting another girl and trying again!

sending huge glow from texas,
Jamie and the Gang
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Jamie A. Stine and the Gang:

1.1 Bearded Dragons (Lancelot & Guenivere)
1.0 Giant Frog Eyed Geckos (Peanut Butter)
0.1 Borneo Short Tailed Python (Ezmerelda)
0.1 Red Tailed Boa (Buffy)
1.0 Short Tailed O'possum (Jethro)
1.0 Greyhound (Hank)

Save a life, adopt a retired racer!

and I'm sorry to hear it happened to your cham. I acquired mine about a week before she started laying. She laid about 21 eggs and we extracted another 26 after she died. My vet thinks it was a combination of improper nutrition (not enough calcium) and the fact that she was moved just one week prior to laying.
At any rate, the eggs are still incubating, and with lots of luck, we'll have her babies hatch sometime between now and Feb.
My condolences to you, I wish you well with her eggs.

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Victor Gomez
gomezvi.tripod.com/sdchamkeepers/
gomezvi@yahoo.com

I'm sorry to hear that
You did a lot for her... It's too bad she couldn't pull through.