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ANybody have any eyelash frog experience?

JadeFox Nov 14, 2003 11:52 PM

I heard they were difficult, but it is furthest from the truth. I had mine for a year now and he's just as simple as the rest.

How long do they live?
Are they easy to breed, and any breeding tips?

I love them! They look like bandits with their cute eyes, and they quack very loudly like a duck

JadeFox

Replies (7)

anyone05 Nov 15, 2003 12:14 PM

hey,

i have had several bad experiences with these frogs, or more like bad luck. My first frog i purchased was wild caught, and seemed healthy in every way, except several days later after purchasing him he died. Then my second experience i purchased a froglet at a show, and one day i found him swarmed by ants. Then i bought 5 juveniles hoping for better luck, except i never got a chance with them, the carrier that delivered them left them on my door step in 90 degree weather, and we all know how that turns out. I read one article in reptiles hobbyist several years back, they require a slight drop in temperature, with alot of simulated rain. They lay there eggs in the soil and go through there entire tadpole stage within the egg, and come out of the ground as little froglets. They are cannibalistic so seperate the eggs from the parents. The young will eat each other, but they have hundreds of babies so it could be a good thing.

I have never had the chance to actually get in depth with these frogs, but from the reading, if you start out on the right foot with captive bred or established animals, they are simple to care for and breed.

good luck.

jorge

JadeFox Nov 18, 2003 06:36 AM

I very recently read breeding any kind of frog is a pain. Because they are very expensive to feed at a daily basis due to numerous frogs, and each requires their own "pad" many are eating machines and will eat anything that moves. So that turns me off when it comes to breeding even red eyed tree frogs.

I'm sorry you had bad luck with these frogs. Perhaps the dealer sold you sick frogs.

But perhaps they do better on their own. I only have one eyelash frog, and he seems very happy in his own 10 gallon tank.

He sure loves to be misted a little everyday but provide a bubble stone in a shallow bowel of water too. I have mine on a timer. It runs about 12 hours a day.

I use shallow bowels for *all* my frogs. Because it is easy to change the water frequently and NO AMOUNT OF FILTRATION can possibly replace frequent water changes (on a daily basis).

If you have any questions write me
liszt9@juno.com

JadeFox

hecktick_punker Nov 15, 2003 06:06 PM

Hi JadeFox,

I absolutly love Solomon Island eyelash frogs. They seem to be one of those cool species of amphibians that just doesn't get enough attention. The fact that they come in many different colors that breed true, have unique reproduction habits, are easy to feed and over all just look impressive with those 3 points on their head would make them a species that I think more people would like to keep. When I fishish building my herp room in the basement I am deffinetly getting a few.

All the information that I know about them is based on what other hobbyists have relayed to me and info that I've read online. Their reproductive habits are what draw me to them. The female lays her clutch of eggs in a burrow in the soil and then covers them up with dirt. If they are fertile the tadpoles will morph into frogs in the ground inside of the egg and a few weeks down the line tiny half inch frogs will crawl out of the dirt.

I think that they have a reputation for being hard to keep because most of the animals availible are wild caught. Wild caught frogs in general can be hard to acclimate. I've heard that they often harbor many different internal parasites and should always be treated with panacur and quarantined for a few months before introducing them to each other. How do you keep yours? Cage size, setup, temperatures, etc.? I always like to hear how other people are caring for these frogs. The more information that is spread around about them the better. Talk to you later,
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bgexotics Nov 17, 2003 11:26 AM

I have three of them, and out of all the frogs I have kept so far (including Mantellas), these have been the most difficult. Two of the are perfectly fine, but one appeared severly dehydrated and shriveled (I thoguht he was dead!) one night. I soaked him over night in water and electrolytes and he appeared as good as new the next morning. However a few days later he developed gray ptahces all over like soemthing had eaten away at his skin. I am still treating him with lots of soaks and methylene blue. If anyone has any better suggestions. The vet didn't really know what to do either, since frog medicine is not practiced very much. He is still perky and eating and doesn't act sick, so I don't know. Maybe it will go away soon. Frogs are so difficult to tell, they can be fine and then suddenly they are almost dead. To say the least, I spray my eyelash frogs heavy and increased the amount of moss in their tank. I placed more water dishes for them to soak in too. They also live in a larger tank now, a 40 extra high that is planted. Overall I think they are an awesome frog, but I recommend trying to find captive bred specimens. I am hoping to breed them, but I haven't found much on how to stimulate breeding.

JadeFox Nov 18, 2003 06:44 AM

I *hate* moss because crickets can easily hide in them and die in it. The *only* substrate I use is Bed-A-Beast and use no substitute. I bought some cheaper brand of bed-a-beast and it stunk no matter how long I kept it out before using so I threw it out. Bed-A-Beast costs more but so far it is the ONLY substrate that works the best.

Maybe the skin patches will clear up on it own. Keep that frog separated naturally, and change the water *daily*. Maybe what would be therapeutic instead of methalyne blue use UV light strong enough for a lizard but just an hour a day (use a florescent bulb so it wont overheat).

I do not use plants in my frog terrariums, unless they are artificial.

JadeFox

JadeFox Nov 18, 2003 06:27 AM

Hi-I bought mine because it looks like a little bandit, and is cute as a button. But I have been very lucky-he's healthy as a horse, and requires very little care.

I have him in a ten gallon fishtank. Substrate: Bed-A-Beast. For water, a shallow dish (used for a plant pot made of plastic). I noticed he will go in a kind of ecstasy when I spray him, and his favorite toy is a bubble stone. He's very amusing when it's turned on.

I just give him crickets for food (gut loaded and lightly calcium with D3 sprinkled).

I change the water about every day or every other day.
Temperature requirements isn't anything special-just no extremes in heat (what is comfortable for you is what the frog wants).

He enjoys being talked to and sometimes when I leave my bedroom he will give a loud QUACK and it is *very* loud.

I think what will kill these frogs is stress. They are small and sensitive. Unlike most of my other frogs, he will not accept food by hand. Well, my red eyed tree frogs won't either but everybody else loves to be handfed.

I will not, for example, take my frog out, but change substrate while frog is still in there but bed-a-beast is great you don't have to change substrate for a year-just scoop out visible poop.

Once acclimated and used to his home, talk to him and provide a bubble stone and watch him play and follow you around the room (he will for the most part keep watching you). Once you see him playing and having a good time (which is very amusing to watch) you know you have a happy frog, and if you are lucky you may have a male which will go QUAAACKKK very loud and maybe even wake you up in the middle of the night. which will scare the daylights out of you because it's so loud and abrupt.

I have my bubble stone connected to a timer...needless to say I keep it off at night now and that helps prevent calling out at night.

Regardless it is a very cute loveable frog. Once it sees you as one of its own kind.

Jade Fox

bgexotics Nov 18, 2003 10:00 PM

He is perkier today and I have been using just plain water for the last few days. I still like to use moss because the house is really dry and the moss helps keep the humidity up. I clean the cages often enough (1-2 times a week) that dead crickets is not really problem. I prefer Eco-Earth to Bed-a-Beast. It is the same stuff but cheaper, especially when you can get a 3 pack for around $4-$5, and I use alot of it. Plus the frogs like to burrow in the moss. I bury clay pots halfway into the substrate and the frogs like to hide in them. I also like to use live plants, it seems to work well for me, I just keep them potted and rinse them off when I clean the cage. Plus the frogs like them. You should see all of my White's TF hiding in their giant bromeliad.

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