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what kind of bloods are they in the classified when they just say baby red bloods???? and what kind are the ones that get really red??? if i am right i know that the sumatran short tail is the aka black blood and the sawarks stay like a brown ans do the borneos. but thats about it and and how fast does a baby red tame down and will it stay tame if you handle it enough???

ps. this would not be my first snake

A "red blood" generally refers to a Malaysian red blood. Larger than the other 2 species. There are red Sumatrans, but I understand they are rare to find in a collection.
I have 2 reds (cb) I have raised and neither has ever bitten or tried to bite me. They are wonderful animals. If you buy a cb you are likely to find a decent animal.

actually malaysian red bloods are quite uncommon according to dave and tracy barker. but, atleast there are people in sumatra that specifically collect (and release) gravid female red bloods from northern sumatra, hatch their eggs and then export the babies that they can, the rest are reintroduced to the wild. i think this is great, theres also an article in reptiles about the bloods and short tails. but for clarity, youve got red bloods which come from malaysia and northern sumatra (sumatrans being quite a bit more common), borneo short tails (as of right now sarawaks are classified as borneos), and sumatran short tails aka black bloods, from southern sumatra.

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Okay, so it's the Malays theat are the rare ones. I also read the article from Tracy but I got the two locales mixed up. The Sumatrans are the ones found in collections. I'd really like to see pics of a Malay and a Sumatran red next to eachother to see if there is any physical difference and be able to tell in the future.

That would be interesting and also with the sarawaks and Borneos. So many locals its hard to keep up.

The thing with color is that you can have the brightest pair of reds and get an assortment of color in a clutch.

so to answer your question on which get more red, well you would have to buy from someone who is going to gurantee that to you, because color ranges in every single clutch, so there is no telling as to how red a baby will get unless it shows outstanding colors from when it is young.

Black Bloods there are the orange heads and the black heads......Orange will stay more brown I believe and the black heads will become darker and darker with age.

As far as taming goes, let me just say that it depends on the animal. You can have a puppy tame blood and once day out of the blue it srtikes at you. They are given a bad rep because of the WC imports>>>>These dont want to be messed with and they wont take a human trying to handle them! Most, if you purchase a CB baby (which is by far reccomended), will tame down if you can give at least it some time with you. Not like once a month or once a week...Several times a week will help your baby calm down...But remember, the Tamest bloods can and will bite without warning if they feel threatened in any way.

There are three species.

Borneo short-tailed pythons (aka "Borneo blood python" )are found only on the island of Borneo (this includes Kalimantan, Sarawak, Sabah and probably Brunei.) There is some potential for confusion because Sarawak is part of the country of Malaysia and is also referred to as East Malaysia.

Sumatran short-tailed pythons (aka "black bloods" ) are found only on Sumatra. Sumatra is a large long island that has a mountain range that divides it into a west side and an east side. Sumatran short-tailed pythons are found on the west side of the island and in the south.

Blood pythons (aka "red bloods", "Sumatran bloods," "Malaysian bloods" and other combinations of names) are found on the east side of Sumatra and on the southern 2/3 of the Malay Peninsula, and on many of the islands in-between in the Straits of Malacca.

Blood pythons are not rare in West Malaysia, but they are today uncommon in captivity because neither Malaysia nor Thailand export the species (not in significant numbers, anyway.) Essentially all of the blood pythons available for sale in the US today are descended from animals collected in central eastern Sumatra.

"Red blood python" is a redundant common name usually used to distinguish the species from the "black blood" or the "Borneo blood" All three of those names are incorrect and down the road lead to further confusion.

I think... they're a very sensitive snake, and aware of what's going on around them. So they can get a little nervous. Mine's bitten me once, when I went to pick him up and startled him a bit. No hard feelings, though, I handle him a lot. A bite from an adult would be a slightly different story, though. If you get a baby you should be used to each other by that time though.

And like the other posters said... reds aren't always red. Mine's currently pumpkin orange although I think he's at a size where he might still develop a different color.
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