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i am interested in getting a poision dart frog. some of the sites/breeders i have looked at are saying the auzuera(?)is is a large frog. what is considered large? i thought all the dart atayed small. also what is an "F1"? and lastly could you recommend a breeder and a site with info for the novice. i have several chameleons but i'm new to frogs.

dennis

Hi Dennis,
Azureus are considered a large frog (by dart frogs' standards) since they reach a length of about 2 inches from snout to vent, give or take. Patrick at
www.saurian.net/ provides a plethora of information for beginners. Kyle, a forum member, has recently compiled a very nice collection of links for us dart froggers
outlander.pointclark.net/. The "F" in F1 stands for "filial generation", which means "generation of siblings". F1 means "first generation".

Do as much reading and research as possible before acquiring your first frogs, so that both you and your frogs can be happy right off the bat. Welcome to the hobby!
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Randy

what is the benifit to F1's? seems if you are looking for a color or color pattern(if that applies to dart frog)i would think it would be risky getting the first generation.

dennis

Hi dennis,
Don't hold me to this, but i think F1's are considerred better because the chance of inbreeding is lees with them, also fi from wc parents may have better color. Like i said i'm no expert, but i think thats the way it works.
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Nate
1.1 alanis tincs
0.0.2 imitators(looking for sens and horn line frogs)
0.0.2 Azureus
0.0.3 green pumilio(On waiting list that puts the waiting in waiting list )

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
Sir Winston Churchill

welcome aboard
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Matt

you chameleons and frogs?

dennis

I am leaving chams and entering frogs. Chams are to high maintenance for me right now. I have to keep 4 different types of food at all times so he wont get bored, humidity requirements, lighting requirements...and whatever you do....don't stress him out!! Hehe, frogs are much easier, and just as interesting and colorful, or so I hear....I am still setting up my tank. Check out Kyle's dart link page....he will have it linked in one of his posts....good site.

Good luck.
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Matt

i also use to keep chameleons... but like you said they are a lot of work. they take up a lot of space. i can keep like 30 frogs in the same amount of space i could keep one or a pair of chams. i loved mine, but didn't have the space to keep them as i live in small city apartments, but i think i will get back into them once i have a place of my own. they are very characterful and interesting, to say nothiing of their looks. darts are very interesting and can sing... chameleons can only hiss when they get in bad moods hahaha.

I would like to get back into them one day. But with full time school, and hour and a half commute and a baby on the way, I am spread thin as it is. I have to wake up almost an hour early just to get his food ready. I like the frog thing because i can leave the lights on later and feed then when I get home.
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Matt

You guys are all over here and no one told me!
I still have my Chams but I am looking into getting a pair of dart frogs. I have kept tree frogs for about 8 years now but have always thought arrow frogs were very difficult to keep.
Does anyone know of a good information site for keeping them and which are the best starters. Are D Leucomelas a good starter?
i have always liked these. What about D Azureatus (oops not sure of spelling on that one)

hey anson! must be something in the air! lol i'm looking at the Leucomelas also. i like the sound they make.

dennis

Hey Sonia!

I am still getting my tank ready for the frogs. From what i gather, all of what you mentioned are good beginner frogs. They get large and are bold. Leucs can be kept in groups which is nice. Check out Kyles links page...the link I provided. That is a good information hub. Another place is www.saurian.net, and doylesdartden.com....all in the links. As far as setting up a tank. the sky is the limit...or your imagination. Take care,
dart links

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Matt