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FILTERS- please help!!

newturtlemom Nov 16, 2003 09:56 AM

Hi all,
I posted this message yesterday and I hate to be annoying, I just really want to get a good filter ASAP.
I am about to order a Fluval Canister filter. I am debating on the 204 or the 304. I have a 20L gallon tank and 2 RES about 3 inches long. They will most likely be in this tank for some time, but I want to get the best filter for them because I am SICK of poopie filters! (ones that do not work) Right now I have 2 in the tank and its still awful in there. I have a duetto as per the sales person in the pet store and a whipser, but its a small one. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks so much,
Turtle love,
NewTurtleMom

Replies (4)

shocker Nov 16, 2003 10:06 AM

i'm sure you'll get the same response from everyone...
you can never have too much filtration. this means get the 404. it is only $85 at bigalsonline.com
you also might want to consider the filstar xp3. some people seem to think it is better than the fluval 404. it is $90 at bigalsonline.com

Engloid Nov 16, 2003 05:38 PM

I have an Eheim 2213 in a 29 gallon tank with 2 small turtles. It's about time for me to upgrade the tank to give them more room...

but the filter works EXCELLENT!!

I clean the filter about once every other week, and it takes me about 20 minutes to do it. Many people work too hard at cleaning them and they end up doing more harm than good. My filter has top layer of fine poly material. It's actually pillow stuffing from Wal-Mart. The next layer is a coarse foam pad that came with the filter. Below it is a gravel type of stuff.

When I clean it, I pull off the top of the canister, and lift out the basket that holds all the media. I dump the canister and rinse it in the sink. I either replace (if I have more) the white pillow stuffing. I rinse in hot tap water, the coarse foam. The gravel stuff, you DO NOT want to rinse in tap water. Personally, I rinse it maybe once every 3 months in DECHLORINATED WATER. This gravel stuff is what is intended to hold the beneficial bacterias, and chlorinated tap water will kill it. Besides, most the "poop" will not be picked up in the basket and will be left in the canister to be dumped out.

This entire process takes about 20 minutes.

Another big tip: Get a raphael catfish and make sure to give him a hiding spot that the turtles can't get into. This type of catfish is very reclusive. You likely won't see it out foraging even one time in 2-3 months...but you will notice that nothing stays on the bottom of the tank for long. They will eat turtle poop, and any food the turtles leave behind. They cost about $7 each and are sometimes not really easy to find. I have 2 and the bottom of my tank stays spotless.

Filters dont have the power to suck the poop up from the bottom of the tank so it just sits there as the toxins seep out into the water. The catfish will take care of it. The fish's poop is small enough that it will get stirred up by turtle movement and sucked into the filter.

Engloid Nov 16, 2003 06:12 PM

Oh, and if you decide you want a filter like mine, here's one I found that a guy's selling for $30 shipped.

http://www.cichlidforums.com/showthread.php?s=d92b0a3ca01e2bd9802e7514de912920&threadid=2308

Mine works well for the tank I have now. If I upgraded to a bigger tank, I'd probably keep this one and add another filter, probably a wet/dry. I got one for my 55 gallon fish tank and it's great. I got it for $100 off ebay. I then had to buy a pump that was about $45, but it's really too big of a pump for the filter. I like it because it really circulates water well.

Yertle Nov 16, 2003 09:55 PM

Like these other people have said, when it comes to filtration, go big. I have a two fluval 404 canister filters, one for my adult slider and one for my two small babies. I have been very happy with this filter in both situations. The best part is as I continue to upgrade my tanks as the turtles grow, I already have powerful filters that can move up with them. My babies started out in a 20L with the 404 and I didn't feel like it was overkill. And if you feel like the flow is too strong, you can adjust it to be a bit more gentle.

But definitely go with the largest canister filters...that way you won't need to buy another filter to accomodate larger tanks and turtles for a long, long time.

Best of Luck!

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