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pine snakes worst nightmare?

mrrooster2u Nov 18, 2003 09:17 AM

A big eastern chain king about six feet long would make a meal out of a monster pine!!!

Replies (24)

DougH Nov 18, 2003 10:17 AM

A monster Pine. So are you talkingabout a 7 footer or so? I would not bet on it actually I would bet on the pine. Pituophis have been known to eat the ocasional snake as well.Even if the king did manage to get the pine down the hatch it would probably kill it. All the pictures I have seen of snakes eating other snakes of the same size or larger have end up dead themselves.

Doug H.

oldherper Nov 18, 2003 11:24 AM

So what? My 8 foot Indigo can beat up your 6 foot Chain King. Big deal. I don't intend to see which one would win anytime soon, because (as far as I can tell) it just doesn't matter.

mrrooster2u Nov 18, 2003 11:34 AM

First of all, you must be on crack... A monster eastern is more than capable of dispatching a snake larger than itself, including indigos, bulls, pines or rats... Join the winning team. Check into a treatment facility first though...

oldherper Nov 18, 2003 11:45 AM

OK..whatever.

gila7150 Nov 18, 2003 01:32 PM

Ahh, the old "my snake can beat up your snake" thread.
I'd have to agree with Oldherper...who cares?

( ... but my paycheck is on the indigo )

jeeperscreepers Nov 19, 2003 06:27 PM

fff

gopherlover Nov 18, 2003 04:08 PM

Add one 6ft eastern chain king to a tub containing a 8-9ft indigo and you end up with one fat and satisfied indigo. Personally the post that started this is completely pointless and was nothing more than mudslinging. No-one on this forum is here to prove that one snake can "eat" another. To be honest when it comes to pine vs king. The pine has more girth, is longer, and also may look at the king as food also (rare but not unheard of). To argue one or another is totally pointless but to throw an indigo in there and say the king wins has to be one of the worst comments or arguements I've heard since my last one with my brother. Who cares what snake eats another, if you want to debate this then go back to the kings forum and talk it up with people who might take you seriously. This forum probably couldn't care less.

--> EvAN

MartinWhalin1 Nov 21, 2003 01:02 AM

>>if you want to debate this then go back to the kings forum and talk it up with people who might take you seriously. This forum probably couldn't care less."

As a frequent visitor of the kingsnake forum, I would like to point out that I couldn't care less either. As a matter of fact, this the most worthless thread I have ever seen and am now ashamed to be a part of it.
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Martin Whalin

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gopherlover Nov 22, 2003 04:28 PM

Sorry about the tone in my first message. I didnt want to make it seem like the kingsnake forum is a bunch of yahoos. The reason why i said what i did was i thought since kingsnakes are semi-canibalistic that people in that forum might care alittle more than the people here. Sorry about the miss-understanding but yes this is a very dumb thread.

-->EvAN

MartinWhalin1 Nov 22, 2003 11:26 PM

LOL no need to apoligize, I knew what you meant. I just find it dissapointing that this post got such a response....and here is my second post...damnit.
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Martin Whalin

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KJUN Nov 18, 2003 06:35 PM

>>First of all, you must be on crack... A monster eastern is more than capable of dispatching a snake larger than itself, including indigos, bulls, pines or rats... Join the winning team. Check into a treatment facility first though...

Tony D Nov 18, 2003 09:26 PM

np

snakeguy88 Nov 18, 2003 08:17 PM

I guess you have never seen an indigo eat. I have kept large wild caught kings...They are not all the impressive of feeders. Wow...I mean you see one kingsnake eat, you have seen them all. But watch an indigo. They hit those things like a ton of bricks. Stupid troll. Admit it, size does matter and when it comes to size you are just MUCH too small.
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Andy Maddox
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Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

dan felice Nov 19, 2003 06:00 AM

dumb at best but what you're not considering is that the king is gonna have a REAL hard time constricting an indigo w/ it's head and face missing. that's the 'point' of attack by all drymarchon. and it's very, very effective!

Steve G Nov 19, 2003 11:24 PM

I couldn't resist entering this hypothetical fray.....lol. I'll tell you what mr. rooster, send me your 6 foot kingsnake, and I'll put it in the cage with my 8 foot plus, 9 and 1/2 lb. northern pine snake, and we'll see what happens. I personally don't think much would happen, unless the kingsnake decided to bite the pine. Even so, I don't think the kingsnake could do much to that thick keeled hide of my pine. A totally different story if my pine decides to chew on your king in self defense. On another note, having grown up in Florida, I have to side with the guys in the Indigo camp. A 6 & 1/2 to 7 foot Indigo would dispatch a 6 foot kingsnake in rather short order, if it wanted to. I don't think you are aware of the power of an Indigo's jaws and how fast they can move when motivated.

jeeperscreepers Nov 19, 2003 06:24 PM

ThankYou!!! where do they find these guys.i rarely come back into this site after selling my collection due to the people i have met in the business (not saying there all bad but my luck has not been good)... such ignorance

Del Nov 18, 2003 05:44 PM

They make a well rounded high fat diet for my cobras and great first time pet for girls.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Del

snakeguy88 Nov 18, 2003 08:20 PM

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Have to agree with you there I want to see this guy put his king in with a nice indigo or good ole' fashion king cobra (of course sad for the snake, but the expression on his face might well be worth it). He seems a bit disillusioned. Some people just don't know their equipment isn't good enough until they see it in action.
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

Eimon Nov 19, 2003 03:41 AM

and what's another for a rooster? The only thing interesting about this post is the "handle." Speaking of which, handle it much?

RichH Nov 19, 2003 08:07 AM

and southern Georgia has brought us into many Drymarchon, Pituophis and Lampropeltis areas. There is one thing we most surely noticed and that is if in an area that contains both Drymarchon and Pituophis we have never EVER come across getula. We have though come across both Drymarchon and Pituophis in fairly close vicinity to each other. Might be a difficult match for either one of these of appropriate size if they crossed each others path but by the lack of getula I would imagine their luck would run out quicker than the above two with to many meetings of such.

Considering both Drymarchon and Pituophis hatch out much larger than any getula I have seen I would imagine they are at a considerable disadvantage from the start. I would think a hatchling drymarchon probably could wipe out many areas of hatchling anole feeding getula in a pretty quick fashion not giving too many a chance to that 6' size to even test this theory of yours.

OH, if ever anyone does come across an 8' plus chain king could you please contact me immediately as I would surely like to consider the purchase. LOL

Rich Hebron

oldherper Nov 19, 2003 08:17 AM

8 foot Chain King? Holy cow! I'd like to see that one, too.

snakeguy88 Nov 19, 2003 09:22 PM

Could I just paint an bullsnake? I'll sell it to you for a meager 1.2 grand. Let me know. Andy
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

max Nov 19, 2003 10:33 PM

this is the pit forum is it not what in the world are you thinking doing that! sure kings are great but come on this is not th freaking WWE! but id have to say a monster pine would pretty much make a chain of any size piss it self! sorry for the attitude but we all have our bad days and this is well obsurd. by the way pits rule and i love them!

kottonmouthking Nov 20, 2003 07:59 AM

Who cares?

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