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Striated Boas?

texasboa71 Nov 21, 2003 11:07 AM

Ok, so when do you start taking this morph thing too far? Except for the obvious head, this doesn't even look like a boa. Also, I'm even afraid to ask how much these are going for, if they are for sale that is. I'm guessing it is just a regular BCI so I wouldn't pay more than $150-200. Steve, this isn't directed towards you. I appreciate your photography. But if you do talk to Bob, can you tell him to start answering his emails. I've sent him 3 emails and he hasn't returned a one. Thank You

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Rainshadow Nov 21, 2003 11:31 AM

Heck,it hasn't even begun yet? it's a boa constrictor,with a new,and,different form of striping. currently it's the only one like it known to exist,the genetics are not yet known,(unless I missed something?)so no,they're not commercially available yet.this is not a man made "morph"! this is a naturally occuring example of a spontaneous mutation!!!

texasboa71 Nov 21, 2003 12:32 PM

Does this look like a striped boa and blood python mated? Just curious.

Rainshadow Nov 21, 2003 12:50 PM

It looks more like a "super-striped" boa,but,that name was already in use,and,I'm sure they probably felt the need to distinguish it from any pre-existing mutations.(my guess.)

bloodpythons Nov 21, 2003 01:09 PM

Aside from the heavy-bodied & having no legs thing, I don't see the resemblance beteween the Striated boa & a blood python. And that is one AWESOME boa! Can't wait to see where that project goes in the future.

KLG

P.S. Blood pythons kick butt, too!
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kirby Nov 21, 2003 12:47 PM

I welcome and look forward to all of the exciting new developments from breeding both morphs and local specific animals. In addition to these there are newly found mutations like the striated boa which will add to the diversity of existing morphs. An animal like this also has some very interesting intergrade possiblities ; I can just imagine how nice the Peruvian intergrade with this boa would look with the ink black color of the Peruvian in that striping.

Just as I look forward to seeing the developments of color and pattern varaitions in the local specific animals I also look forward to all of the future projects with the morphs. There is so much amazing potential on so many different lines and combinations that it is hard for me to imagine what too far would be for me personally. I can already think of a number of projects I would like to do with that striated boa and look forward to someday adding that to my collection.
Bill Kirby

texasboa71 Nov 21, 2003 12:56 PM

BUT, do you respect the boa because it is a boa or because it has "cool" morphs? Maybe I'm just an oldscool kinda simple person, but If my Columbian was still alive, I would have put her up against any morph out there today. Love your snake for what it is and not because it looks "cool". It's all about RESPECT

Rainshadow Nov 21, 2003 01:14 PM

"normal" like "abnormal" is based on the perception of what is typical for a given species...if all the boas were striped like that one,I would probably have even more respect for the ones with little saddle-like markings! *lol*(especially if they came in different colors! )

kirby Nov 21, 2003 01:17 PM

I got my first boa in 1972. In the 70's most snake owners sought great looking boas and pythons for their collections as breeding was not something that most people were into. There was about a ten year gap in my snake ownership through college and medical school and I got back into it in the nineties when the morph breeding really began to take hold.
From this background I feel I do have great respect for the animals and that includes all of it's various forms. Most morphs that are currently being bred are mutations and thus are natural occuring variations from the norm. I think a boa like the striated boa is every bit as impressive as a screamer Peruvian; they are different but equally impressive in their own right. Fundamentally, I like boas. I like them with pattern mutations, color mutations and even patternlees. I have great respect for the boa form and marvel at all of the variations that occur on that common form.
Bill Kirby

Simbo Nov 21, 2003 11:44 AM

I'm not really into morphs, but do admit when they are nice looking boas (I like albinos, sunglow, etc.). In my opinion, this boa morph is very unattractive and I wouldn't pay anything for it. I see nothing that I would look for in a boa in that snake. It is just the 'newest thing' so of course people love it and want in on the project.
If you ask me, a nice pure BCC (like Hera) or one of those South Brazilians that Barry Miller posted earlier is much more attractive in my eyes.
$.02
- Eric

Randall_Turner Nov 21, 2003 11:49 AM

I have to agree with you that a nice pure bcc blows that out of the water in looks and appearance. BUT.(a big but.lol) I think that the striated boa will not be fully appreciated until you start seeing striated sunglows, striated hypos, etc etc. I think those will be very very nice.

Later
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obz Nov 21, 2003 11:50 AM

live and let live. personally, i think the striated is cool. not cool enough to shell out any money for... as thats all in my 'suriname trust fund'. but anyone who wants to go , go-go for that boa... is more than welcomed. the amount id spend on a killer BCC would make some morph collecters eyebrows raise. its all relative to what you like, the more options the merrier.


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Rainshadow Nov 21, 2003 12:07 PM

To each his own,which is why I never fully understand many of the attitudes displayed in reaction to seeing something new? I'd be every bit as excited to see a new,and,potentially genetic mutation in ANY boa constrictor subspecies/locality! some people act like someone's splicing genes in their garage to come up with something that is a natural,albeit atypical,variation of a BOA CONSTRICTOR! *lol* if ya don't see the value,don't buy one,same as anything else!(where's the beef?)

obz Nov 21, 2003 11:47 AM

ive sent bob numerous emails, gotten prompt responses on all of them... you may want to look into giving him a phone call. his number is listed on his site.

i however, wouldnt return any emails if you sent them to me questioning the integrity of my boas as you are on this board.

funny how opinions differ, it looks JUST like a boa to me... an insanley striped one at that. look on the bright side pal... its something new and different, and wicked cool.. imagine that as a hypo, or coral albino? im not into morphs, and i dont have any, but i respect how cool and unique they are. maybe thats why i dont care what the prices are, because im not acheing to buy one.
if you dont think it looks like a boa, and you think that morphs are getting rediculous, why would you even offer 150-200 for it?
if that were my opinion, id just pass on him all together and buy a screamin normal.

take care
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the-mikester Nov 21, 2003 11:54 AM

you guys are crazy. thats thing is awesome. i cant even tell the difference in half of the boa morphs. this thing is sweet. if i had the cash and the space...id buy one.

CE Nov 21, 2003 12:07 PM

not really my thing but cool to look at .
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amazoa Nov 21, 2003 12:32 PM

I had the opportunity to see this beautiful boa this summer and as I stated earlier in a post I'm still in AWE!!!! Richard

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Richard -amazoa-

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texasboa71 Nov 21, 2003 12:50 PM

WEAK?? Where are the saddles at? There aren't even any on the tail. It looks like a blood python somehow mated with a boa to me. But that is just my opinion. If and when the morph does come available for sale I'm sure it will be around $2500 (IMO), but you go past the "AWE" stripe and "cool" part, and deep down, it is still a boa (and I'm only going by the head part).

obz Nov 21, 2003 01:00 PM

what about when you go past the saddles and peaks and medalions of 'normal boas'?

dont get me wrong... i love peaks and laddertails, BUT they dont make a boa. if you dont like it man, pass it bye. otherwise youll find yourself in the ball python, or emerald tree boa forums asking where the saddles are.

it looks just like a boa friend.... a striped one.
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Rainshadow Nov 21, 2003 01:02 PM

Suggesting that it's a hybrid between two unrelated species,and,they're trying to "pass it off" as a boa,you're WAAAY out of the park...yeah,it's just a boa....just like that screamer C.E. posted up above,is"just a boa",so why would it cost more than another less attractive looking one from the same locality? unique individual beauty,and,the potential for that to be passed to its offspring!!!!(that's what it's ALL ABOUT!)

MikeWilbanks Nov 22, 2003 11:19 AM

>>WEAK?? Where are the saddles at? There aren't even any on the tail. It looks like a blood python somehow mated with a boa to me. But that is just my opinion. If and when the morph does come available for sale I'm sure it will be around $2500 (IMO), but you go past the "AWE" stripe and "cool" part, and deep down, it is still a boa (and I'm only going by the head part).
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Exotics by Nature Nov 24, 2003 01:37 AM

I remember seeing that Striated in Daytona in 2002... WOW...

$2500.00 huh?!? LMAO as well! I know we would definitely be willing to pay $10,000 to $15,000 a piece for these... Make some already!!!

Man I LOVE that snake!

Good Luck...
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Owner : EbN
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gmherps Nov 21, 2003 04:05 PM

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bcibydesign Nov 21, 2003 09:01 PM

had the privilege of holding that very animal, and it is killer. like Rainshadow said it's the only one and its a naturally accuring morph. nothing wrong with that. just another gift from nature in my opinion. Brendan

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