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Hey Guys,

I have just bought this carpet python through an advert in my local paper. I just wanted to know, if you`s could help me in telling me what type of Carpet Python it is exactly?

I have tried searching the net and consulting my books but nothing seems to match it close enough for a positive ID!

Some people i have showed the pic to say its a Jungle but i think it is an unusual marked coastal!

Any opinions are welcome

Thanks In Advance

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Don't listen to anyone who tells you it's definitely this or that--they don't know what they're talking about. Honestly, I have no idea what that snake is. It could be an unusually marked coastal or an unusually marked jungle; however, it's most likely some sort of hybrid. So, to sum it all up, I don't think you're going to find out what it is. It does look very nice, though. I'd love to see more pics of it.

Jake

hey,

Thanks for the replies, I kinda knew i`d open a can of worms with this one. I would like to find a female for this one to breed them, but as most commonly available carpet pythons here (UK) are hybrids of some description, i do not suppose it would do any harm to guess what type it is, or would it?

I do not generally like the idea of crossing species and that is why i am posting here in the hope that i can try my best to avoid this!

Anyone else with any opinions are very welcome to help!

The lack of a precise id could be a positive thing with an unusual animal like that. The only real restriction you have in terms of finding a mate is that it has to look cool. Maybe one of Paul Harris's striped jungles or something or just wait until you see something cool at a show.

G

I believe that may be an Inland (Morelia spilota metcalfei) or a hybrid of that and something else. Could you please post a pic of it's head pattern please.
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Jim Kuroski

Here are some more pics of him.

Hope someone can help!

A shot of the nasal scale...as clearly as you can get it...thanks
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Jim Kuroski

OMG!! That was a lot harder to do than I ever thought.

>>OMG!! That was a lot harder to do than I ever thought.

WOW! I'm impressed! That must have taken an hour at the least! I don't even think I could get a picture of my sankes noes of I kept trying for months!

Anyways I'm just going to post my 2 cents here instead of posting below...So the snake is 5ft and looks fairly grown. If you were here in the states I'd say it would definately be a cross. Since you are in the UK I'd still stay there is a pretty good possibility but either way locality isn't always as important as what you plan to do with them.

If it's going to be a pet...who cares. If you want to breed, just keep in mind that the snake comes from unkown origins. The great thing about carpets now-a-days is that most people breed for pattern/color and not for locality( even most jungles for the most part don't have tracable backgrounds). This is because of the several decades of cross-breeding without imports of local specific specimens. So in saying, your carpet's pattern and color most reminds me of a coastal type. I would probably find another coastal type for breeding if thats your plan. Hope this helps,

Darci
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Takes all kinds to make a World...

That's not quite what I was looking for...I need a side view of the nostral scale...lol
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Jim Kuroski

I love my Snake, If you need any more let me know!

Cheers

I don't see any nasal suture, but the head pattern is not right and the nasal opening isn't either.
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Jim Kuroski

Jim,

You have to look really closely but the suture is there. Looks coastalish but the pattern's unusual. Nice "carpet python".

G

The more I see this snake, the more I'm leaning toward coastal. It might have some other kind of carpet in it, but I'd say it resembles a coastal more than anything else.

Jake

np

he`s just over 5 foot

Hello,

Well let me start off with this. No matter who says what, if it's Tim Nias, Matt Bonnet, Dave Barker or the queen of England... you don't really know what it is and can't sell the offspring as anything more than Carpet X's of some sort, believed to be " blah blah blah".

That said, you can start crossing things off of the list such as:

Pure Jungle Carpet
Pure Irian Jaya Carpet
Pure Diamond Python

I must admit that cryptic pattern is a bit unique and unlike any carpet i've seen personally. Although this doesn't mean much, who am I? If I was to guess though, could be a 2 or three way cross. Coastal, Diamond or Coastal, Jungle Diamond.

There is an area in Australia where Coastals integrade with Diamonds (Not Jungles with Diamonds, as some say...)

As far as it being a Metcalfei ... I would doubt that quite sincerely. Simply from the financial aspect. Such an animal would rarely be hybridized, would rarely enter into the pet trade and rarely end up in an unknowing persons hands only to be sold in the local classifieds... Granted stranger things have happened, but I doubt most of those things too!

My advice, find yourself a nice funky looking Coastal X Jungle or Coastal X Diamond to breed to it... and Sell the babies as Carpet X's.... That way you don't cross it into anything already "pure"... since you previously stated you don't like hybrids.. this is the most puritan way to go about it, versus keeping it solely as a pet.

hasta,
J

np

Thank you Everyone who put in their $0.02.

It has to be said that this has been the most help I have EVER got out of any Forum on Kingsnake, full credit to you guys and keep up the good work !!!!

Kingsnake needs more people like you`s!

Thanks again

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1 Chameleo Calyptratus, 1 Varanus Exanthematicus, 1 Morelia Spilota Sp.??

Your snake very much resembles one of my coastals. The difference in pattern greatly resembles jungles though. It has both splotches of coastal and jungle looking pattern. If I had to guess I would say it is a coastal x jungle.