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By this I mean right off the hunt club, not Okeetee "phase", not "Jasper and neighboring counties." Kathy Love and Rich Zuchowski have been honest enough to say that their animals don't fit in my narrow 50,000 acre locality criteria, and I respect that immensely. Tom Chaing has some, I have a about two dozen, John Albrecht has a few, but I don't know a larger producer than myself to discuss and swap with. Thanks.

John Meltzer of RJ Reptiles in Minnesota has locality Okeetee corns, I believe.
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Monte Meyer
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No Fru-Fru morphs in the herp room

I think Vin Russo of Cutting Edge Herp has some. He has some stock from Chiang, but some other line(s) as well if I remember correctly. Chiang's snakes are very red, much like the snake you posted. Nice animal.

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WK

i have been breeding locality okeetees, most of the originals were caught by me in 1990-1993 on the insides and very outside fringe of the plantation/hunt club. i have 10 breeding pairs, most unrelated,plus 1 pair from tom chiang,and 1 pair from scott john also pure okeetees. please see some representative pics on my website strikersherps.com i am very excited to have raised an extraordinary okeetee and bred her to a phenomenal male. the resulting 5.5 ch2003s are the first of my tiger okeetee line and they are at 3 months already blowing my mind. take care, howie
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Howie:
You mentioned in your website you'd hunted the club. Do you know Davie? He's the regular hunter down there that they've hired all the Marines to keep out! Seriously, he's the Jasper county misdemeanor-tresspassing version of the Crocodile Hunter. This was his prize posession until I bought it off of him for a kidney, Mr. Rhett Butler!

Rhett has as thick of them as any wild caught I've ever seen, and I've seen dozens, if not hundreds. That's the funny thing about locality snakes, they've got the color, but not the borders...well, toward the tail some do. If you see REALLY increased black borders, dollars to doughnuts says it's not locality. Don Soderberg was Emailing me his take on that today, and I have to agree. We'll probably see them eventually, but not enough selective breeding has been done over enough generations to get the "killer black borders," so us locality enthusiasts will have to settle for great color for now...

I have a female and 2 year old girls from her..look like your pic....but are not local that I know of(**Phil Black)...I have a pair of Zuchowski''s het hypo okees.....and a pair of Clint Boyer mixed Okees.....(crossed out)....friend has a trio with THICK black borders.....I forget the guy he got them from at Daytona 2002..........

then I have another pair of year olds....Haphazard Rd......it's near club.....not sure how close.........(Merli)

probably not IN the hunt area.......

but as Rich used to say.."what if it is crossing road going into club?...what if is coming out""????????/

pic is haphazards''

JY
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nice corn!! i have only one or two male adults that match up,and that is after nearly 15 years of breeding Okeetees. as for thick borders, generally speaking an okeetee can have the whole gamut from hardly any black to very thick borders,quite often they have longitudinal striping and also often they are very dark hued. so not all pure okeetees are outstanding like the one you have pictured. of my offspring,probably i would consider myself lucky if a quarter of them turned out awesome as you would want an okeetee to be.from all the other okeetee experienced breeders i have spoken to,they tell me that would be a high estimate. sorry for the rambling,just thinking out loud. again, truly pretty okeetee you got there. howie
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