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Has anybody used Tylan for RI on Balls???

prosteven Nov 24, 2003 08:50 AM

If you have please tell me if it worked for you and what dose you used.

Thanx.

Replies (7)

sincityretics Nov 24, 2003 02:43 PM

I would advise you not to. Hence the name I keep retics and other large constrictors and it works great at a dosage of .15cc per lb. However, you would have a hard time delivering that recommended amount to a ball it probably wouldnt add up to a full cc so Id say dont use it. Plus tylan needs to be injected suboc meaning into the muscle area right below the skin. That takes some know how to do. Consult your vet baytil would most likely be a better option and unless youve done it before dont try the injection yourself

P-Monster
SinCityRetics aka SCNewEngland

LeosAnonymous Nov 24, 2003 03:19 PM

I've read that Tylan is not a great hit and miss drug, but works wonders on mycoplasms (Baytril and Amikacin are not effective against mycoplasms).

The mycoplasms will not show up in a regular culture, so much of the time they go un-noticed and un-diagnosed.

As far as dosing goes, I have read 25-50mg/kg is recommended every 72 hours. You can not get a definite cc/lb dosage because it comes in two different strengths. Tylan 50 and 200 (also goes by Tylosin), both can be found at your local feed store, the 200 is 4 times more concentrated than the 50.

I can't comment on the effectiveness personally, as I have never used the drug (though I do have a bottle of Tylosin 200 in the fridge). You can administer the drug SQ or IM, if you have never given shots to your snakes before I would consult your vet or a friend who is experienced.

If you use the Tylan or Tylosin let us know how it worked out for you.

For more information on Tylan visit the Boaphile forums. There are a few people there who have had great success with the drug.
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Ball Pythons, Red Striped Leos, W.Hognose and Screaming AFT's

prosteven Nov 24, 2003 03:51 PM

This is going to be my first time usen Tylan.

I have a ball that has a RI for one month now, a culture was done and it has pseudomonas aeruginosa. ( gram - )

I treated the snake with baytril (enrofloxacin 2.5 mg kg IM q 24h) and amikacin ( amiglyde sulfate 5 mg/kw q 74h ) for two weeks.

By now the discharge is gone but the snake still has problems breathing, congestion stills present and snake is not eating.

I've read that Tylan is a great treatment for Gram-positive bacteria and some gram - species, I also heard that it is very good for anorexic animals.

I'm going to start with 25mg/kg Im q 72h.

I'll keep you updated.

Thanks for your helph.

Tom Burke Nov 24, 2003 04:51 PM

I'm more familiar with boas and usually only lurk here to admire the great ball morphs I see posted but a culture is a culture and it doesn't matter what type of snake we're talking about. When I do a culture I also request an antibiotic sensitivity be done at the same time which will give you the antibiotic of choice for your particular infection. This saves time and the stress of "shotgunning" antibiotics into an animal. You can start with the most effective antibiotic without wasting any time and avoid injecting an antibiotic that is ineffective.
Burke Reptiles

prosteven Nov 24, 2003 05:13 PM

The culture was done and the bacteria is both sensitive to baytril and amikacin.

I used both for two weeks and the snake has shown only some improvement.

Cultures are a great way to start treatment for RI, but some snakes develop ( or already had ) other kind of bacterias ( like the mycoplasma species ) or viruses, so the speecies that you see on the culture may just be part of the problem. if others still there and the antibiotic that you're using is not effective agains them, the snake won't show improvement.

I've seen quite some cases were cultures were done and the antibiotics were used correctly but the snakes never recovered and finally died.

That's why I think that Tylan may be one solution if none of the previous treatments wont work..

drizzt Nov 24, 2003 07:36 PM

Your vet should have told you with anti-biotics you need to run the full time. If you've seen some improvement they are working. Bacteria infections can be tough some times and be very resistant, but if the tests say they are going to be effected by baytril and amakacin they will. Stick to it, sometimes it can take longer than 3 weeks, plus with what you are saying most of the visible mucus is gone, it needs time to clear all the old mucus out of the lungs, that in it's self can take time.

Don't try something unproven on balls because you are getting anxious, patience is a virtue.

prosteven Nov 24, 2003 09:16 PM

Thanks for letting me know.

The Vet actually told me to use it for a week and that the snake should get better after that, If not he told me to return to use a different antibiotic.

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