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I would just like everyone to know that if you have your darts in a shoe box and they are not growing as fast or as large as you expected or hoped the shoe box may be stunuting their growth. This happened to me with a vent and 3 young leucs, they stayed very small till I moved them into larger terrariums, once placed in 10g they began to grow very rapidly and the vent began to call. Just a thought for those who are having similar problems.
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2.2.3 Orange Leucs
1.0 ventrimactulatus Blue leg
0.0.4 Orange galact

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That's interesting to note...

I've kept my frogs so far in shoe boxes and 2 1/2 gallon tanks. So far so good. A few tincs are approaching full size in some of them and no sign of stunted growth yet. I imagine it may be dependent on the species/individual frog. Who knows?

Then again, all my frogs are in shoeboxes by themselves...so maybe that is an issue.

Ken

I've put 8 darts through the shoe box treament without any problem. I've also had to put one frog back into the shoebox for destressing and monitoring which was quite successful in preparing him for reintroduction into the vivarium. Perhaps the success of this method depends on proper feeding and careful monitoring of humidity and temperature. For my setup I found it preferable to keep extra water in the box and keep the papertowel soaked. This is due to the low humidity in my area perhaps, but I feel that darts seem to like water more than is generally advertised.

I would certainly have to recommend this method considering the general success for the many people that have used it.

joe

I use the 5 gallon Sterlite boxes with small holes drilled around the sides 3" from the base and tilted at a slight angle for drainage into a shallow pan which holds several of these boxes. I have kept alot of neonates in these for 4 to 5 months with no problems and they are very bold when they go into a larger viv. However, I don not overcrowd these boxes which seems to be the mistake alot of people make at first. 1 to 2 per box for a few months. Also, note that the sterlite boxes are cheap (4 bucks at Wal-Mart) and come with an uber nice lid that fits extremely close and I have had no escapees. For added security, celephane can be used over the box then the lid over this.

-Bill J
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Updated list as of: 11/7/03
2.2.3 D. azureus
1.2 D. ventrimaculatus 'yellow' (22 tads in the water)
3.3 D. tinctorius 'cobalt'
0.0.3 D. tinctorius 'patricia'
0.0.1 D. tinctorius 'giant orange'
0.0.1 D. tinctorius 'citronella'
0.0.2 D auratus 'zwartgroene(Panamanian black and green)'
0.0.5 D. auratus 'green/black'
0.0.3 D. imitator 'Alex Sens line' (very soon)
0.0.2 D. reticulatus (soon)