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Terry Parks

All the snakes are really nice. I love that light grey ground color too. BTW, I'm supposed to get a digital myself this Christmas. Can't wait to put it to use. TC.

Yeah, they are real fun. I can't wait until I start taking some descent pics with it. You should see how many I take that aren't very good to post. LOL Thanks for the comments.

Terry Parks

>>All the snakes are really nice. I love that light grey ground color too. BTW, I'm supposed to get a digital myself this Christmas. Can't wait to put it to use. TC.

Terry, those are all nice juvies. I like this last one best, for some reason.
Don't forget to email me some snaps of all your bairdi-esp. the Mexican form.
These shots got me wondering-is there any way in general to ID different locality youngsters?
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Ill be taking some pics for you over this weekend Jack. It seems strange that the babies and juvies will look alike and yet will end up (for the most part)having the differences in colors and stripe variances that we see as adults. I should have offsping from different locales and from Mexican and Texas biards to start seeing if any subtle differences can be seen. I have Steve and Kelli Hammack's locality bairdi collection on breeder loan right now in addition to the ones in my collection. This includes the origianl w/c Mexican Bairds founding breeder pair collected by Steve in 1985 in Nuevo Leon, Mexico on a permit. A few prople I've traded emails with see a few subtle differences between Texaas and Mexican bairds babies and juvies. These include the gray ground color and cross bars are darker on the Mexican Bairdi babies and juvies. In addition, the head shape of the Mexican bairdi is narrower and the body is elongated as opposed to a Texas Baird. It makes it tough in most cases to selectively breed for traits that you can't tell with babies and juvies. You really can't see some of those great traits people post pics on until they are just about adults. There's a lot more interest in bairds rat snakes and hopefully with working with them more, we will be able to start solving some of these puzzles. Good luck Jack. I'll send those pics this weekend.

Terry Parks

>>Terry, those are all nice juvies. I like this last one best, for some reason.
>>Don't forget to email me some snaps of all your bairdi-esp. the Mexican form.
>>These shots got me wondering-is there any way in general to ID different locality youngsters?
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>>...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Yeah, the Hammacks pretty much told me the same thing a while back, but I'd love to see some difference develop in locality TX groups.
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."