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Update none feeder Bloodred

Marcel Poots Nov 28, 2003 05:25 AM

This female Bloodred decided to wait a long time before starting to feed for me. Now that is she does feed she is actually one of the best feeders I have had She feeds on two pinkies every 4 days and is so aggressive on food she will eat the pinks backwards and sideways
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Replies (15)

Amanda E Nov 28, 2003 06:39 AM

gothpython Nov 29, 2003 12:27 AM

i have a bloodred male that has eaten for me once and there after just leaves the pinky in the corner. how did you get yours to feed? i'm fairly new here. any help will be appreciated.
thank you,
red

Marcel Poots Nov 29, 2003 04:03 AM

>>i have a bloodred male that has eaten for me once and there after just leaves the pinky in the corner. how did you get yours to feed? i'm fairly new here. any help will be appreciated.
>>thank you,
>>red

I force fed her a chick leg two times and then she started to eat on her own. I did not expect that since she was so fragile.. I guess I had a bunch of luck.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

cowtownherper Nov 29, 2003 08:36 AM

Exscuse me for not understanding (I'm from Texas), but exactly what do you mean by chick leg. I'm having trouble getting my 03 Kisatchie to eat and have tried about everything else.

Gargoyle420 Nov 29, 2003 09:28 AM

Marcel uses baby chicken legs to force feed.Ive seen pics of his snakes eating them.

Marcel Poots Nov 29, 2003 03:23 PM

I replied on top of the forum
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=262078,262078

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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Phillip Nov 29, 2003 09:26 PM

Shouldn't this snake have a grey head in order to be a bloodred? If not someone has changed the definition of what makes a bloodred since one small enough to be on pinks should still have a grey head.

Phil

Marcel Poots Nov 30, 2003 02:22 AM

Some Bloodreds have grey heads. All of them have white belly's with the creeping red and all of them have the fading pattern. I selected her because she did not have the grey head. She came out completely red what made her stand out of the clutch.

Marcel

>>Shouldn't this snake have a grey head in order to be a bloodred? If not someone has changed the definition of what makes a bloodred since one small enough to be on pinks should still have a grey head.
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>>Phil
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Phillip Nov 30, 2003 01:48 PM

I believe you are missing my point. What I was getting at is that I have yet to see anyone but yourself refer to one without the grey head as a bloodred. Perhaps this is one of the deals where you guys across the big pond call them something different but it doesn't appear to be bloodred from where I sit.

Wasn't knocking on ya It's a nice snake. Just doesn't look bloodred is all.

Phil

Marcel Poots Nov 30, 2003 01:53 PM

Well, what do you think about this belly? Does that look like a normal corn?

Marcel
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Marcel Poots Nov 30, 2003 02:20 PM

And this is the mother which produced her.. She did not have a grey head herself. I have seen other bloodred babies without grey heads. I have seen a lot of striped corns with grey heads that do not have any bloodred in them.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Phillip Nov 30, 2003 04:08 PM

While the belly does look to have bloodred influence the head thing is still making me doubt it. As to the grey headed stripes that's a new one on me. I've seen a bunch of stripes but have yet to see a grey headed one. I still have to go back to the grey head being a determining factor at least everywhere I have ever looked such as breeders who produce new morphs and such.

The reasoning behind my question pertaining to where you came up with bloodred wasn't to try and debate the point with you but merely to find out where you came up with calling it bloodred. I know that over in Europe there are a few morphs floating around with incorrect names on them and felt as if this may be one of them.

Phil

Marcel Poots Dec 01, 2003 08:06 AM

>>I've seen a bunch of stripes but have yet to see a grey headed one.

I do not have a better picture but all the young ones I have had had grey heads..
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Phillip Dec 01, 2003 03:48 PM

Again you are missing what I am saying. The coloration on the stripes can be grey but the arrowhead is still present where on a true bloodred there is hardly any arrowhead marking at all but instead a plain grey head. Look in the Loves book and there is a good example of what I am talking about. Hatchling bloodreds have a distinctly different looking head than the other morphs do. Unless of course folks have started calling other morphs bloodred as well which I certainly can't rule out but these wouldn't be a classic bloodred regardless of what one chooses to call them.

Phil

Phillip Dec 01, 2003 04:15 PM

Here's a pic of a bloodred I had a while back to give a better idea what I'm talking about. Notice the head doesn't have much marking to it at all. This is what I meant by a greay head not just the base coloration. Also keep in mind the pic is kinda crappy due to a shed coming soon after and the camera not being what I use now but you get the idea from it.

Phil
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