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this is not my snake but i wish it was!does antone have babies for sale that look like this......

Here in Oz we have pure diamonds that look like that.

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M.S

Agree Mark.
I was also wondering, How do you maintain an animal that is part Tropics and part Temperate, that in normal circumstances is kept using quite different tecniques?

P.

Personally, i would keep them exactly the same as a jungle, maybe just a little lower in ambient temps, just a couple degrees, but still with a nice hot spot.In winter cooling again just a touch lower than a jungle.

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Mark

Mark,

I guess the subliminal part of my question is also this, Do we really know whether a Cross's are of equal genetic make up? I have no idea but I'm sure somebody has done some work in this aerea.
My other, and more important point is, are these animals being crossed in search of "Beauty". I don't disagree with people crossing such animals, we may actually learn quite alot from this one day, but I don't ever see myself sacrificing genetic purity for "visionary satisfaction". (Sorry for crapping on a bit)

I realise that Diamonds and Coastals (seems to be the most accepted name here) naturally Hybridise in the wild, as do many other forms of Herpetofauna, but I don't think this should be taken into consideration or compared to "Cross Breeding" of animals in captivity. The naturally occuring Hybrids that I am aware of, are very restriced as far as distribution and tend to occur in areas that have weather patterns that are not to far removed from those at the opposite ends of their Geographic Locations. Again sorry to dribbling on a bit, I guess that I am just interested in where Amatuer Herpetology is heading.
Maybe I am looking into to it to deeply.
There is also this question, would you cross a Scrubbie with a Coastal? It can and has been done.

P.

Reagrding the scrubbie with the coastal, i wouldnt cross them, i have seen the pics and boy are they ugly!Bredli cross murray darlings looks very cool though, but wouldnt do it personally, but has to be one of the better looking hybrids out there.

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M.S

I don't know if you asked him before posting that photo, but some people dislike having their photos posted by others who haven't asked for permission. I'm pretty sure that he said that that snake is 75% diamond and 25% jungle. I'm not sure who produced it, but for some reason I'm thinking it was Python Pete stock.

Jake

If there is a photo available on the internet, it is techinically available for public usage. Jeff might not like it to be posted, but it shouldn't be available for all to see at that point. It would be illegal if someone were to make money off of that picture though. Big deal.

Just because a photo is on the internet, it doesn't mean that it is public property. You say that someone shouldn't show their pics on the internet if they don't want other people to use them. This is ridulous. The photo is still Jeff Clark's property no matter where he displays it.

Jake

He's just an excited new commer. Don't be too hard on him. I think he gets the message that its better to ask so that others aren't offended. If there is an issue at this point its between Jeff Clark and Monitor1o1. So lets not get too off the subject of the forum.

Darci

My reply to Tormato wasn't directed at Monitor1o1. I know he didn't mean any harm by posting that pic. I also don't even know if Jeff would care about it.

I do, however, feel it is extremely rude, if not illegal, to post someone else's pic if you know better. Furthermore, I still say it is ridiculous to call something public property just because it is on the internet.

I also don't think that this discussion is off topic. This is an internet forum, and I feel the in which we conduct ourselves on here is very important.

Jake

*I also don't think that this discussion is off topic. This is an internet forum, and I feel the in which we conduct ourselves on here is very important. *

I agree, but there is no reason to 'beat a dead horse'. I have just had a bad taste in my mouth since we've delt with the Troll and cringe at the sight of arguments on the forum. I appologize if I offended you with my comment. I just didn't want things to escalate out of control.

Darci

thanks for the info. i really don't mean to start stuff.just introsted it's a beauty!!!

Thats what I mean; he's using the photograph to say "this is the snake im looking for. Where are they?"
If someone had a picture of a snake that had this sick bumping on its back, and my snake had the same problem, I'd definitely use the picture to say "this is the problem, what is it". I have a camera so I dont have to do that, but what if I didn't? The pictures are there, and I'm saying Technically, theres nothing stopping you from using them, in a non-profit way. I highly doubt Jeff would care if someone says "this is the prettiest snake Ive ever seen. Where can I buy these?"
If so, then he can get protectors for his photos. Have you ever right clicked on a picture and try to save it, but the "save picture" text is dimmed?
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"Mint 9 Dimaggio? Im sorry You got four minutes because thats, Thats, THATS ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUSSS"
-Don West

I was just suggesting that he ask people in the future if he is going to use their photos. I honestly don't know if Jeff would care, but I do know that some people DO care if you do this.

In the hypothetical situation that you just gave, it would still be appropriate to ask the person who owns the photograph if you can use it. The lack of a camera isn't an excuse to reprint a copyrighted photo without permission. Even if it isn't technically illegal, as you're suggesting, I still feel it's appropriate etiquette to ask someone's permission. Lastly, I don't think that a lack of those protectors should be considered an open invitation to use someone's photo at will. That's like saying it's ok to steal a car if the owner leaves the doors unlocked.

Jake

Well your right about it not being off topic.
You don't know for sure that its copywrited. Im assuming it isn't, because of the low grade-film quality. But if it was, that would mean it would be of value, and that Jeff could very well sue. Don't try to win your way out of this by pairing it up with a dramatic scenario, theft. Lawfully, there is no rule stating that you cannot use photographs for educational purposes. Technically monitor used that photograph for further knowledge of where he could obtain that snake, or one like it. He could also argue it was in the best interest for Jeff, stating if was to further keep Jeff in business by tracking Jeff down to see if he even sold snakes. I think you were considering this from a moral standpoint. Even at that rate, I still disagree. Its just a stupid picture, no ones going to die.

PS-By the way I don't know who jeff is anyway; Im not saying he sells or breeds snakes. I don't know.
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"Mint 9 Dimaggio? Im sorry You got four minutes because thats, Thats, THATS ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUSSS"
-Don West

Problem is ...that it takes time to color up like that.when they are babies they are a ugly brown and gray and you can't tell what they are gonna look like.

i get a kick out of all this..and yes..that is a nice cross...here is a pic of my female..about 4.5 years old...7'...it's not a good pic...she still looks as good as the one you posted....i think it was Bob Clarks ..have fun...billy