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ultrasonic foggers???

chamsrcool Nov 30, 2003 02:44 PM

do they really work?
DO you know which one is the best i have been looking at the exo terra and the hagen foggers.

do they only work well in tanks? i was going to use one a a screen lizards cage if it worked well in my frog tanks

Replies (9)

DKiM128 Nov 30, 2003 03:48 PM

I use ultrasonic foggers, I just like the look of mist. If you use it for a tank where its all sealed up, you don't have to wait long before a lot of condensation form, and the humidity rises a lot.
But for a open cage, you have to either run it every once in a while, or just keep it on, depending on how much air movement you have. They work great. Any brand will do. I use a brand called Rain Maker. I think, its pretty effective and I like it a lot.
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nasr_36 Nov 30, 2003 04:39 PM

Personally, i wouldnt use them. They are not very effective, and will die off in a few weeks or months anyway. They also give a nasty shock when touched, and your frogs would stand no chance. I bought one a while back, and it seemed like a waste of money IMO.

You can do your own using a household humidifier and pvc pipeing.

M.N

jhupp Nov 30, 2003 05:21 PM

I use a Mist Maker brand fogger with a float, in a seald container underneath my terrarium and forced air system to push the fog into the tank. You will find this fogger to be less expensive then the ExoTerra and in my experince better preforming. It also comes with extra parts and a longer power cord (if I remeber correctly). I bought mine from Main Land Mart (just go to Google and type in ultrasoninc fogger and it will be one of the first results). They sell a varity of foggers by this company, along with useful extras like floats.

But, whatever you decide to go with I would recomend isolating the fogger from the frogs.

astubbs Nov 30, 2003 06:29 PM

Hi,

The ultrasonic foggers are a wonderfull way to raise humidity in your tanks. They are however dangerous to your frogs if the transducer ever comes is close contact with them. They also can heat the water in the bottom of your tank to an unsafe termerature. The reason that they begin to produce less fog is because of deposits on the transducer plate, you can easlly fix this by using distilled or RO water. If your fogger is already damaged then you can use vinegar and a cloth to dissolve the deposits, if it is really ruined you can just buy a replacement transducer plate. About a year ago I invented a system to pump fog into a take with forced air. If anyone is interested in any details I will find the original post on frognet, but you basically place a fogger in a nalgene bottle, seal it with silicone and pressurise it so the fogged air is pumped into the tank. You should just buy your fogger from Mainland mart because I have tried all the different types and they seem comperable. If you have the extra money a "high output" model may be for you, but if you house it as I suggested the limiting factor will not be fogger output, but the amout of fogged air you can pump into your tank. Hope this helps, if anyone needs details I will dig them up but I belive I have posted the specs on this forum before.

Alexander Stubbs

chamsrcool Nov 30, 2003 07:18 PM

i found a mist maker with 5 discs and lights(although not needed) for about $30 (great DEAL)

how can i direct the fog into a cage if o leave it outside the cage?

I have a one gallon icecream ub i can put it in but how can i get the fogg to go into the cage without putting the fogger in the cage?

astubbs Nov 30, 2003 08:37 PM

Hi,

Where did you find the fogger? I will dig up my old post on frognet and try to post it tomorrow so that you can have more details.

Alexander Stubbs

jhupp Nov 30, 2003 08:43 PM

A one gallon icecream tub may be a little small (untill recently I used a 3.5 gallon paint bucket, I have swithched to a 16in long piece of 6.25in ABS plastic pipe set in my new 20 gallon resivour). You need about 6 inches of clearence above the fogger for fog to build and then you need enough water in the bucket so that you don't have to constantly add water. That is why I use a float; the fogger is allways at optimal depth and I can have a large reserve of water avialible for it.

Next you need a fan. I use a 10in bathroom vent fan conected to an RF shielded reostat, so I can control the speed. I also use 2in pool and spa line for all my hoses and PVC for duct work. Set the fan up so that it blows into the bucket through a piece of hose. Fool around with some of the PVC fittings and you will find something that will make a nice solid connection between the hose and the bucket lid. Then set up a second hose from the lid to where you want the fog to enter the tank. I have mine set to blow through two 1.25in PVC outlets in the top back so that the fog rols down my back plantings.

If you use PVC connectors at your outlets (mine are 90 degree elbows pointed down) you can cut ~.25in thick rings of PVC pipe and easily secure screen in the outlets by sandwiching it between two rings.

The basic idea here is that the fan builds pressure in the bucket as the fogger is filling the air space with fog (this is why you need at least a 6in air space) and the only place for the pressure to go is out your outlet tube to the tank. The idea in pointing both the air in and fog out tubes strait down parellel to each is that this insure that the air you are blowing in becomes well mixed with the fog. So you get maxium fog into the tank.

One last thing, be sure to set your outlet tube up so that water does not pool up in it. I didn't think of this when I first set mine up and freaked out when a week later it stopped blowing fog into the tank.

astubbs Nov 30, 2003 09:27 PM

Hi,

Below is a copy of a frognet message that I wrote a while ago. This is the same design that I was selling as NW frogfest, they work well and do not loose as much fog to condensation as the pvc based systems do. I decided on the Nalgene after trying many different types of containers. I hope this helps.
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I thought I would share how I constructed a ultrasonic fogger. I placed the ultrasonic transducer in a glad ware container or a nalgine bottle and then drilled 3 holes, one for the electricity for the transducer, one for air in and one for air out. I then inserted aquarium airline tubing into the 2 holes and hooked one end up to a air pump (the type that fish people use to run under gravel filters). This pump pressurizes the container and because all the other ways for air to escape have been sealed by silicone the air must go out the tubing on the other end. The result of this project is a very fine, visible mist that floats out of tubing into the tank. I experimented with different tubing diameters and found that thinner was better because then the air pump can clear it when the condensation on the tube clogs.

Alexander Stubbs

coyotethug Dec 01, 2003 05:14 PM

I have used a ultrasonic humidifier many times for tank setups. They work great for keeping up the humidity and look cool too when the fog rolls in. I have a much different setup though. I buy my foggers from Walgreens. They are called cool mist humidifiers. They come with a resevoir which holds about a gallon. There are a couple versions which have a round exit tube which you can slide a piece of 1 1/2 inch pvc into. Once you do this you can run the plumbing anywhere you like. I either dump in through the top of the hood, or through the side or bottom of the terrarium using a bulkhead fitting. just put some window screen on the end of the tube that enters the tank so the frogs don't crawl in, and you are set. The frogs can't get anywhere close to the electric parts, and you don't have any cords in your tank.

Walgreens sells them for like 30 bucks and I am sure most other chain drug stores have them too.
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