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I was recently given a Red Eye Tree Frog as an early christmas gift. All I have kept is American Green's and one Squirrel Tree Frog. I have them all in a huge 75 gallon vertical tank. My question is would it be ok to put my new Red Eye in with my other 2. I have all the stuff needed for it's care already in the tank, as far as I can tell through my research, but I am worried about combining them and haven't yet. I would appreciate it if some one could please tell me if they will be ok together. All of my Tree frogs are Apprx. 2 inches in length.

Thanks.

As an afterthought there a few more things I should mention about my tank set up. In my tank I have a bed a beast mixed with repti bark in about a 70/30% mix favoring the Bed a beast. I also have a full spectrum light in the hood, which i know is not truly nescessary but i believe it makes the colors much more vibrant. I have a humidity gauge and a temperature gauge so i keep the humidity around 80% which is high for my gree tree frog i know, but he has done well with it for the past year and a half. I also have a screen vent cover with good air circulation. The temperature is never below 70 degrees. I have a filtered waterfall in one corner as the water source. I also have live plants, and fake hanging vines on the glass with several hiding places and climbing toys. I have had fair sucess with my babies, with only one death and that being that when i bought a green tree frog it was already sick. I kept it isolated and it died from what i later found out from my local vet was Metabolic bone disease. My local pet store told me that keeping my RETF in my enclosure would be fine, I haven't consulted my vet on the issue yet because i was hoping to get some good advice from others who may have experience with this. Personally i think that a 75 gallon tank is fine for 3 two inch frogs, but i have never been big on species intermixing, especially with the problems it could cause. Anyway i just need some advice, if someone could please help.

Although your temps and hummidity would be suitable for a RE, I wouldn't mix them. REs are quite fragile and easily stressed. Having it mixed with two other species would only bring on that stress and open it up to illness. The two species that you have mixed are basically from the same area, but they carry parasites that the RE would have problems with. More than likely, the end result of such mixing would be the death of your RE.

Your best bet is to set up a 20 gallon tank (on end if possible to create height) and do basically the same set-up as what you have for the others (only I would use just Bed a beast... retibark has dyes in it that can harm your frogs since they absorb through their skin... might want to remove it from the other tank as well... just in case) and just house the RE alone. You'll see a lot more activity in the evenings as well... mixing them will only make that stressed RE hide all the time.

Hope this helps!
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Heather
The Gang (1.1.0 agalychnis callidryas, 0.2.0 bufo spinulosus, 4.0.0 osteopilus septentrionalis)

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For the reasons Heather (EllasMommie) listed, I really wouldn't put the RETF in there. You're risking disease to the RETF, undue stress, compromised living conditions to make everyone happy, unnatural competition, etc.

As you mentioned, the humidity is also high for GTFs, but I keep mine around there, too, although I caught mine here in Florida where the humidity stays high like that. Now, I forgot what Repti-Bark looks like, but I'd stay clear from anything that could be ingested by the frog, ever.

Anyway, honestly, I'd consider separating the Squirrel treefrog from the Green treefrog, too. One, or even a few, Squirrel treefrogs should live comfortably in a 10-gallon, so it shouldn't be a difficult relocation. The tank is big, so you could even divide it up so the animals don't interfere with eachother without having to find more space. About separating them, the only reason I say this is because of the size differences. My Green treefrogs are nearly twice the length of my Squirrels and will try to attack them. Even if the Squirrel is large enough as to where the Green can't eat it, the Green may still try... it could overpower and kill it, and it doesn't necessarily have to be very hungry to try it. I had a juvenile GTF try to eat an adult Squirrel that was just barely smaller when I tried to introduce them last Winter because the GTF seemed to be interested in the Squirrel's call and I wanted to see what would happen. The same thing happened another time that I tried to feed them together. Well, I've learned my lessons and am just warning you, although it's basically a size thing, because they do live under the same basic conditions. Yours could be used to eachother, but you never know what could happen, so it's a prevention thing.
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Hello again. Here's my latest news with my frogs, I switched over completely to terrium moss in both of my tanks, it's what my vet suggested. I took my RE to the vet, as it turns out it had a cricket leg lodged in it's throat. It should be fine, I am a bit concerned because the vet handled it quite a bit and it's back started turning a shade of purple and it's belly a shade of pink. They kept it for today while I was at work to observe it. When I picked it up, it looked like it's legs and stomach were swollen and it's back was spotted with large areas of dark green. I asked what was wrong and he said it was just cold and to get it home and warmed up and it would be fine. Has anyone else ever seen this happen. Right now it is living in a 10 gal. tank turned so it is taller than wide. Is this acceptable housing for now? I believe it is a female and I haven't named her yet. I was thinking Cher because it is French for beautiful. But I haven't decided and would love to hear some name suggestions. As for my other two frogs, I got them together at the same store about 2 years ago, where they were sent from Florida together. They are named Miles and Jordan. I haven't had any problems and they are both sized fairly evenly. My American Green, Jordan is 2 inches and my Squirrell, Miles is about an inch and a half. They are in a 3x3x3 tank together and seem to get along okay. I'll watch out for any signs of violence though. Thanks for warning me. Anyway if anyone has anymore info or suggestions I would love to here them. Thanks

What kind of terrarium moss did you switch over to? Many mosses can be a risk for impaction, just as the Repti-Bark may be.

Anyway, watch the GTF to see if it grows and don't wait for violence to separate them if it does. The spots on the back of the RETF probably are, just as your vet said, a product of the frog being chilly. I'd be worried about the pink incase the frog was hurt, but, hey, the vet has to know what he's doing and did see the pink, right?
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