Heres the 3 babies from the female I posted on 11 / 22. The mother of the babies is 18" long. The babies were born 3 months ago and are 12" already "Unreal"
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BABY RATTLERS W / PIC
SavingGraceReptiles
Dec 01, 2003 12:36 PM
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BPO
Dec 01, 2003 02:03 PM
OK...since no one has yet to directly ask you what they are, I will. Are they concolor or abyssus?
SavingGraceReptiles
Dec 01, 2003 04:41 PM
Abyssus get much bigger.
BPO
Dec 01, 2003 05:23 PM
but not necessarily. Not all abyssus get "much" bigger. There are currently at least 3 distinct clades within the abyssus ssp. as per Douglas et.al. and some of those animals don't get very big. I have seen a handful of examples of snakes that are not much bigger then the snakes you posted and are very similar in pattern to the second adult. Either way you answered my question indirectly. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Rich G.cascabel
Dec 01, 2003 05:36 PM
the A1's (canyon clade)abyssus can get bigger, but the other two clades average much the same as concolor. I have abyssus den-sites where all the snakes are under 20 inches and look exactly like the second female and the babies you have posted.
Rich G.cascabel
Dec 01, 2003 05:42 PM
an old adult female about 18' inches long.
BPO
Dec 03, 2003 09:45 AM
SGR,
Any reason why you took the time to post these snakes but yet you refuse to make any comment on them? If the reason has to do with the fact that they are a protected species in "almost" every state that they occur, then why post them at all?
greghenry
Dec 03, 2003 11:35 PM
You guys produce some really cool stuff. Do you have a website with what all you're working with? Thanks.
Greg Henry
