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help please!

dynomite Dec 01, 2003 08:29 PM

ok so for those of you that have been following my progress with the timor monitor he is thriving... i am only wondering however if by changing his photoperiod i can get him to be active when i am home.. right now he is active between 9:30 and 1 (thats the range he is usually only out about 3 hours out of the day... so i'm usually not home to see him... if i put a timer on the lights to turn off later will he be out later (maybe 3-4ish?)... i overslept on thanksgiving and thus did not turn the light on till later and he was right there on his favorite branch waiting for ther light to go on so thats y im not sure if changing it will work... P.S. he is thriving!
i also had a second question... i kind of want a monitor i can handle (LLL convinced me that this one could be tamed and stays small does not really need much humidity or attention etc.... LIARS!) it was my fault for buying him without doing my homework, but its an awsome animal even if he is not tamed) but back to the monitor that i can handle, a local pet shop has a red ackie for 180, he is 180 bc he got the tip of his tail bit so its kinda crooked, but its only the end... i spent some time with him and he is awsome and i really want him, i just wanna make sure of a couple things, namely if i am paying a fair price for him (he is healthy except for the tail which still looks kinda tender so it musta been recent) and uh my second one is gonna make me sound like an a$$hole, but do u guys think i could sell the timor for anything to make the ackie more affordable and have more space? i don't know if i want to get rid of him, i have grown kind of attached but well i dont know, i don't think i will be getting rid of him but just assure me that 180 is a fair price for an injured juvinile red ackie please.
thanx alot
-jake

Replies (10)

ra_tzu Dec 01, 2003 08:47 PM

My monitors are on their own schedule. The early bird gets up around 5pm, the next one gets up around 6pm, and the third one gets up around 9-10 pm.

meretseger Dec 01, 2003 10:02 PM

That's EXACTLY the time period when my monitor is out. His lights are on 24/7. I think the only way you could shift his photoperiod is if he couldn't see a window.
That sounds almost suspiciously cheap for an ackie, if it's just the tip of his tail, I think it would be worth more than $180. Prices vary regionally though. A timmy would be worth around $100 in trade where I am.
It's too bad LLL misrepresented the animal, perhaps they thought timors can be tamed but it's very tough.
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Peter: It's OK, I'll handle it. I read a book about something like this.
Brian: Are you sure it was a book? Are you sure it wasn't NOTHING?

dynomite Dec 01, 2003 11:11 PM

i tried the trade thing but everybody seems to be fully stocked, and the price for trade seems to be about 30-50 dollars here in san diego (i paid 90).... what i really want to try though is keep both... which im pretty sure im gonna end up doing. apparantly though they are not the only animal that thinks they can be tamed another pet shop i called ahbout a trade seems to think that they are tameable also, but he's cool, i saw him hanging by his tail from a vine near the lamp a few hours ago, he's quite a character. as for the ackie when the guy toild me that over the phone those were my thoughts exactly however i saw him and held im he is fat and healthy and alert, looks to be only the tail, hes got awsome colors too. they are selling the other males for 400 (they also have an awsome kimberly and a pair of arabian desert monitors... pretty F'in cool) eerie how both our monitors ahve the smae period of activity lol.
thanx
jake

crocdoc2 Dec 01, 2003 10:06 PM

you can change the day/night schedule but you'd have to do it slowly and make sure the enclosure isn't near large uncurtained windows that may give the game away. My monitors get a day/night schedule that varies with the seasons and they adjust to new sunrise/sunset times if I make the changes slowly. They always know when the basking lights are about to turn on and will often place themselves under them 15 minutes earlier in anticipation. One of the females unfailingly crawls down into her log 10 minutes before the lights go out.

Dirt Dec 02, 2003 12:20 AM

Ha red ackies are very prone to bite....ive got a group and the males will nail you at the most unexpected times no warnings at all.....if you want an ral "lap DOG" monitor go w a little yellow ACKIE HATCHLINGS. There relatively inexpensive too. The one at the pet store is probably a orange looking monitor anyway, so its a good chance its a yellow also. reds tend to be a little bit more. good luck P.S. go w the ackies

SHvar Dec 02, 2003 01:15 AM

"Ha red ackies are very prone to bite...."

Whered ya get that, monitors all have different personalities, they bite almost as a last resort or when scared out of their minds, not for no reason when your not looking. They play dead a long time before biting sometimes. But they can also be biting as a feedingg responce, or a territorial dispute with you, or they just dont like you.

"ive got a group and the males will nail you at the most unexpected times no warnings at all.....if you want an ral "lap DOG" monitor go w a little yellow ACKIE HATCHLINGS"

A yellow ackie is a different species, but they can vary in personality just the same. My male red climbs on you from the cage and acts like your the best thing since sliced bread, hes afraid of nothing at all, and has never attempted to bite anyone. His claws are a different story, even tunneling through hard dirt 12 hours a day sometimes they are still razor sharp, accept when he rips one out (grows back in 2-4 days).

dirt Dec 02, 2003 01:41 AM

ive got 2.3 and both males got a serious sneaky side...dont know why just moving them to soak or clean but they like to grab me hand. Sometimes they dont even wiggle first. But the females havent even attempted but this is just my experience.

RobertBushner Dec 02, 2003 02:24 PM

I'm laughing with you.

With my ackies, soaking them was a guaranteed way to get bit, and they didn't give much warning either. It didn't take too many times before I realized they hated soaking and stopped forcing them to do that.

--Robert

SHvar Dec 02, 2003 09:46 PM

And soaking, but he wont bite you for it. He will stand up to get out.
Sounds as if your males attack you for entering their territory and to protect their females. Property, they think you threaten their property.

dynomite Dec 02, 2003 04:24 PM

>>ok so for those of you that have been following my progress with the timor monitor he is thriving... i am only wondering how much do you guys think the ackie is worth? he was easily the most colorful of the 8 in the store, only difference is that he is younger and has that little nip on the end of his tail... so whaddya think?
thanx
jake

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