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Here's a large female N. sipedon I caught several weeks ago. I found her prowling in a small creek at about dusk. I was surprised beacause the air temperatures at the time were in the low 50s. Needless to say, she was a bit sluggish when captured.

The sipedon in this area are intergrades between the Northern and Midland subspecies.

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Pierson Hill

Herpetology and Herpetoculture

Nice picture. The N. erythrogaster I put the picture of was captured in Onlsow county. I need to get some pictures of that little fasciata(I believe)that I have. Need to find a camera.
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Conrad
Too Fast Reptiles
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Do you have any pictures of your "hypo" Greenish Ratsnakes? I love natural Ratsnake intergrades (Gulf Hammocks, Deckerts, etc.) and I've been looking into getting some nice specimens in the near future. Thanks.

-Pierson
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Pierson Hill

Herpetology and Herpetoculture

but I really need to get a hold of a camera and get it done. The hypos I have are a lot lighter then the normal ones I've come across and so far have only shown up in certain area "local" if you will, that's realatively close to where I live. My biggest male, a 6 footer, is cooling right now and will be bred to a normal greenish female that I've had a clutch from in the past, so I'll be able to determine whether it's a carrying gene or just a local variant that breeds across. I know it's not a certain clutch because I've found two, and both are very different age class. The smaller one hasn't been sexed male/female yet, but I'm leaning toward male just by looks and body weight.

I don't believe in the "labbed out" greenish's, that is,"I have a black rat and a yellow, I THINK I'LL BREED THEM!". I only breed out the natural strain, which means my stock come from WC original stock, which I'm not big on either, but I could never find anyone that could gaurantee that the greenish's that they had were the natural strain, so I never settled with any. I rescued some from death, and decided to hang onto them for breeders, and just only now have decided which ones I was really keeping for breeding, that's why I have a couple posted.

I'm also looking in the future of breeding some local variants in the watersnakes. Like if I can find another N. erythrogaster like "ears", which would have been awsome if I could have bred out a "hypo" or just high colored snake. Well, this whole thing was kinda scatterbrained, but hopefully I'll be getting some pictures soon and you can see what I'm talking about.
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Conrad
Too Fast Reptiles
www.toofastreptiles.bravehost.com

I don't consider captive Yellow X Black as "Greenish" rats either. The captive intergrades look nothing like the wild types, which I find much more appealing. Where are you catching them (approximately)? Do your "Greenish" rats retain their blotches or are they striped (or both)? I can't wait to see the pics!

P.S. If you are really interested in some nice CB erythrogaster, e-mail me.
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Pierson Hill

Herpetology and Herpetoculture

Nice lookin' snake. I havn't been out in a while, but last snake I saw was a clarkii when we were catching bait. Andy
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Andy Maddox
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