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DougH Jun 02, 2003 09:17 AM

Couldn't help but take some pics.Of my P.d.jani and P.v.bimaris after they shed

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DougH Jun 02, 2003 09:18 AM

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DougH Jun 02, 2003 09:18 AM

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DougH Jun 02, 2003 09:19 AM

P.v.bimaris

terryp Jun 02, 2003 06:09 PM

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terryp Jun 02, 2003 06:14 PM

snake. I really like the ones Del has over at his place. Makes me wonder why I switched to focus on ratsnakes. Good luck with those Doug.

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gofer Jun 03, 2003 12:19 AM

now switch from so many rats back to pits, lol, just kidding. I have caught the rat snake bug too, but i'm sticking with both pits and rats...and some boas, pythons, kings, milks, etc., lol, just about everything.
Have a good one,

Gregg F.

terryp Jun 03, 2003 12:09 PM

If I didn't get to enjoy the pits through Del, I don't know how I would do it. John Ginter calls me a traitor when I see or talk to him. LOL. He focuses on pituophis now, but relays stories of having black rat snakes and foxsnakes as a kid. The first snakes I obtained were pituophis. My Northern Pines and Black Pines came via John Ginter. I obtained a pair of capes from Steve Weissman. I was defiantely headed down the pituophis path. I liked obsoleta so I was adding them to my collection too. When Del Alspaw and I hooked up this partnership, we decided to split our collections into pituophis and pantherophis/elaphe. I haven't seen you post since those cape eggs were laid over at your place. Did you just wake up from passing out? LOL

>>now switch from so many rats back to pits, lol, just kidding. I have caught the rat snake bug too, but i'm sticking with both pits and rats...and some boas, pythons, kings, milks, etc., lol, just about everything.
>>Have a good one,
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>>Gregg F.

gofer Jun 03, 2003 06:00 PM

I know i like working with them all too much, mostly the pits, but can't give up completely on the others too. Yeah, i was out cold since the cape eggs, and then i received another 14 candy cane corn eggs...and one sonoran is in blue and lookign huge...back to waiting again. Another candy cane corn shed about a week ago, and i'm waiting for her too. Haven't seen much activity out of my bairdi or trans pecos yet though, so that worries me, lol. I received that pair of proven climacs today, maybe you can send me some hints on keeping them. Steve sent me some tips, but it's always nice to get more information on the animals from others.
Have a good one, and let me know how things are going at your place.
Gregg F.

If I didn't get to enjoy the pits through Del, I don't know how I would do it. John Ginter calls me a traitor when I see or talk to him. LOL. He focuses on pituophis now, but relays stories of having black rat snakes and foxsnakes as a kid. The first snakes I obtained were pituophis. My Northern Pines and Black Pines came via John Ginter. I obtained a pair of capes from Steve Weissman. I was defiantely headed down the pituophis path. I liked obsoleta so I was adding them to my collection too. When Del Alspaw and I hooked up this partnership, we decided to split our collections into pituophis and pantherophis/elaphe. I haven't seen you post since those cape eggs were laid over at your place. Did you just wake up from passing out? LOL

>>now switch from so many rats back to pits, lol, just kidding. I have caught the rat snake bug too, but i'm sticking with both pits and rats...and some boas, pythons, kings, milks, etc., lol, just about everything.
>>Have a good one,
>>
>>Gregg F.
Gregg's RB

terryp Jun 03, 2003 10:13 PM

my female started throwing eggs last night. They're all slugs so far. I thought I was iffy on the brumation time. People keep telling me you need at least 4 months. This is the second year I've bred them. I didn't wait long enough. You won't have to tell me again. I guess you need the 4 months for the male. The female was ovulating I guess since she's throwing slugs. The male must have shot blanks. I held back a female last year. I should have held a pair.

gofer Jun 05, 2003 12:01 AM

Did you get any viable eggs after the slugs were laid? So this winter i will definitely be putting them in a little earlier than my other colubrids, and pulling them out earlier. I may have got lucky this year, but i only hibernated all my animals 8 weeks. So far all have been breeding, but i'm still waiting to see if my black milks, trans pecos and bairdi were brumated enough. Any suggestions on the bairdi or trans pecos would be greatly appreciated and i'm trying some of these tools and toys now, just for kicks. I'll try to give you a call soon.
Have a good one,

Gregg F.
Gregg's RB

Del Jun 04, 2003 01:36 PM

not all of us can be perfect LOL!!!!!!

terryp Jun 04, 2003 03:18 PM

You started me with wanting pituophis when you brought your hypo female bullsnake to work that day. I still remember when you took the lid off the 5 gallon bucket and pulled her out. You ever want something real bad even though it scares you? LOL I don't think I held her, but it didn't matter I had to have one. I didn't get that hypo bull until the the fifth snake. A grayband was the fist snake you got for me. Wait, I think you did start the transition. I remember getting that year old corn/rat you had when that guy didn't take him when it was a hatchling. It wasn't a pit and you weren't going to breed him. You didn't even talk that well about him. Brenda kept asking me what you would do with the corn/rat if you decide you don't want it. I told her we can't release in California so you'll probably lower the snakes temperature to 30 degrees for a couple days. It took Brenda awhile to figure what I meant. When she did she wanted me to get the snake from you. I told her I would do the same thing with the snake, but she figured I wouldn't if she kept on me not to lower the temp. She did the same thing with Ugmo. As soon as we started calling him Ugmo, Brenda figured he was going to the cooling chamber. That's why she even snitched him from your place that day. LOL. She still thinks I'm kidding when I say she owes you $100 for him. I told her the other day that you wanted a leopard gecko or pair when she starts producing them. She said she'll give you a good price and I said she still owes you for Ugmo. It's funny, I still have that corn/rat snake. Brenda calls him "cornholio".

Del Jun 04, 2003 04:00 PM

I think the last time you took pits to a show for me, my one and only hypo female got snatched up to by the big "B". LOL!!!!! Tell it will take a bunch of geckos to cover the price of a white sided and a hypo LOL!!!!! It is much more pleasing to have her owe me then to ever get the money

Del

terryp Jun 05, 2003 11:13 AM

and had her on the table to sell first. We did take her off the table before the other snakes. I should have known. You do need a female for the male white sided. LOL. Did I miss something? I hasven't seen any posting of the clutches you have cooking. I haven't posted any of the rat clutches on the other forum yet. The corn/rat shed again last night. She must be ready to drop eggs anytime.

gofer Jun 05, 2003 03:13 PM

Hello there, just wondering when we will see some pics of your clutchs...I'm waiting for my Sonoran to drop, she is so fat it's unbelievable. I'll get the wife to take a few pics of me holding her this weekend, I can't beleive how big she is right now. Reminds me of what the Cape looked like prior to dropping. I was looking into some Coastal Milks, and was hoping you or Del might be able to point me at a few good breeders working with Hypo and/or Albinos, striped etc. Not sure when i'll be able to fit them in the basement, lol, but someday i'm sure.
Have a good one,

Gregg F.

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