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kyle1745 Dec 07, 2003 01:59 PM

Ok how can you tell if a brom is too wet?

The fireball in the upper left corner is the one i am talking about. It seems the waterfall is soaking the cork over to where the root of the fireball goes into it, so it is wet at the root. Is that bad? Only thing that bothers me is if I move it it will have to go to the other side wich will leave that side bare...

Ideas anyone?


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Replies (8)

FalconBlade Dec 07, 2003 03:16 PM

I have a couple of N. fireball bromeliads growing on top of a piece of wood used for my waterfall and their roots tend to stay pretty wet. However, I have seen no adverse signs of growth in this area and both have reached a beautiful deep red. If yoou have had that bromeliad growing in that spot for a few months and it has taken root, then I would have to say that it would be ok where it is. Hope this helps.

-Bill J
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kyle1745 Dec 07, 2003 03:20 PM

Thats the thing it has only been there a few days. It seems fine so far, I have removed the moss I had around the base as it was very wet. I don't want to move it since I like the spot it is in and so do the frogs, but if the wetness kills it no one can like it.
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Homer1 Dec 07, 2003 09:40 PM

If you just have the piece of the stolon stuck into the cork, it should be okay. If the union where the leaves meet the base is constantly wet, you could have some rot occur. I would just watch it to see if you have any softness develop. Fireball is a very hardy species, so you could remove it if one or two of the outer leaves gets soft, pull off the bad leaves, and it's likely to be fine.

Anyway, that setup looks great, Kyle. As for me, I'm afraid that my terrarium is starting to look a little overpopulated with plants. I'm going to have to do some thinning in the next few months . . . but I just can't decide which ones to move!
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kyle1745 Dec 08, 2003 05:21 AM

A couple leaves are a little soft, but I think the moss I had around the base may have been causing it. I have removed it and will give it a couple days. The hardest part about movign it will be getting the frogs out of it. The male love its.
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Divegod Dec 08, 2003 02:49 PM

Definitely remove the moss. The brom can handle wetness as long as theres some air flow around the base. Constant wetness around the base will kill it eventually. Keep an eye on it. You can put up a "barrier" by sliding a piece of plastic into the cork between the roots and waterfall that may help to minimize contact with the water.

kyle1745 Dec 08, 2003 04:55 PM

Worst case I will move it. I did remove the moss already.
I have a fireball pup in my azureus tank that is about ready to be removed so I can add that also.
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slaytonp Dec 08, 2003 08:24 PM

I've found my bromes can take a lot of water around the anchor roots as long as it is not swampy, and as Homer says, is not concentrated around the lower leaves without draining off. I have some growing on cocoas fiber boards that are constantly in the water fall splashing, and they do fine. Others that have been saturated by being too close to the ground level and lack drainage and air circulation, tend to rot. I think it's a matter of having good drainage rather than how wet it is all the time. Brown sphagnum moss around the stolons doesn't seem to be as much of a problem as using peat or live moss. Oddly, you can still keep the axils full of water with misting and spraying without a problem. That's where they get their nutrients from dissolved organic matter-- not from the anchor roots.
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kyle1745 Dec 08, 2003 09:03 PM

Thanks for the info I will watch to see if it roots.
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