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I want to start by appologizing to all the animal nutritionists because my frog is one of the most unhealthy creatures!!! Killer will eat ANYTHING, and enjoys it very much. I load him up with calcium by calcium coated crickets. He eats healthy two out of every three weeks. The third week is when he splurges. I usually feed him mice, or a small rat. Occasionally he is fed a zebra finch (bird). However, Killer has an appetite for fried chicken. I know it is probably one of the worst things he could eat, but he loves it. I feed him chicken fingers out of my hand. I don't give him fried chicken very often, but I figure it makes humans unhealthy so I might as well let him have that luxury.
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0.1 Pixie Frog (Killer)
1.1 Blizzard Leopard Geckos (Roscoe & Snowflake)
0.2 Normal Leopard Geckos (Lucky & Princess)

Yes i am sure a frog in a glass cage walks to fridge and decides what he wants to eat.

I aint touching this with a 10, no 20 foot poll.
aj
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

First off, you need some big changes in diet. Mice, birds, and ESPECIALLY fried chicken will probably lead to the early death of your frog. Fried chicken has nothing in it. Mice are bad enough and can cause severe lipid buildup. But at least mice do have something to them besides just lipids. Fried chicken has NOTHING. And when you say your frog loves it, I doubt the frog savors the taste. I could hold a battery infront of my frog and move it around and it would eat it. Does that mean he loves it? No. Try switching to a diet of hissing cockroaches, nightcrawlers, and crickets. Feed once a week or so. Do not fill him up. As of now, you are on a crash course. So do not apologize to us. Apologize to the frog that is going to not live to its potential. Why you still keep feeding it things that are obviously unhealthy is beyond me, especially when these frogs have no free will. They can not choose if they want fried chicken, or crickets, or anything else. They eat what you give them. Andy
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Houston Herp Key
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Is there any difference that you see in your frog eating differnet foods? I think it might be dangerous to your Pixie, since human oils clog up their pores and such, imagine what a few grams of ... I don't know what kind of oil will do to your frog. Hey, live fast and die young. And eat fried chicken.
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We all know our pets will eat us if we were small enough.

You fed a poor bird to a frog. That is terrible. I bird doesn't deserve to be devoured by creature of poor intelligence, let alone a frog. Are you the type of person that buys these animals just to watch it kill things?
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1.2.1 Leopard Geks
2 White's Treefrogs
2.1 Fire Bellied Toads
0.0.2 Red Eared Sliders
Fish:
0.2 Parrot Cichlids
1 Upside Down Catfish
0.0.2 Bullhead Catfish
1 Geophagus jurupari
1 Fire Barbs
0.0.4 Blue Gouramis
Goldfish
0.0.1 Colombian Catfish

You can't be serious. The "poor bird" in the wild could/would be food for him. Bullfrogs eat anything they can fit in their mouths. Owning reptiles and amphibians means feeding them what they eat in the wild.
Sometimes that means feeding live prey to those that won't take dead prey and killing prey to those who will eat dead prey.
As for fried chicken lol, that person crying for attention..

It is different in the wild where the bird has a chance to escape. Also it wouldn't matter because they will be native species. When you said "owning reptiles and amphibians means feeding them what they eat in the wild", african bullfrogs don't eat a steady diet of birds. They eat small land dwelling, such as small Vertebraes, and large invertebraes. If I recall zerbra finces are an australlian species, and pixie frogs are an african species. In the wild how would they eat each other. The herps we own don't eat mealworms (Tenebrio molitor), house crickets (Achetus domesticus), or white mice in the wild. I mean buying somebody's bird meant for pets in feeding it to a frog is different. It is like if somebondy feeds their moniter stray cats. Are you just going to say that they eat small animals in the wild.
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1.2.1 Leopard Geks
2 White's Treefrogs
2.1 Fire Bellied Toads
0.0.2 Red Eared Sliders
Fish:
0.2 Parrot Cichlids
1 Upside Down Catfish
0.0.2 Bullhead Catfish
1 Geophagus jurupari
1 Fire Barbs
0.0.4 Blue Gouramis
Goldfish
0.0.1 Colombian Catfish

I would support the feeding of stay/feral cats to monitors personally. I don't mind cats, and like them, as long as they aren't just released into the wilds of the ecosystem to wreak havoc and chaos on the native species. I would feel no qualms about that. Andy
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

So I guess the crickets and mealworm, etc. that you feed your animals have a good chance of escaping as well?
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Randy

Do you really think that the food chain is based on intelligence? So by your theory, a creature of lower-level intelligence (i.e. a snake) should not eat a creature of higher intelligence (i.e. a mouse). I suppose, by your theory, snakes should NEVER eat mice. Wow, what a concept...
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Randy

Did I say never?
Did I say it was a theory?
no

I just think that feeding something a kid would own to a big huge green blob with a mouth. Also, I could careless for the people who feed mice to their snakes.
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1.2.1 Leopard Geks
2 White's Treefrogs
2.1 Fire Bellied Toads
0.0.2 Red Eared Sliders
Fish:
0.2 Parrot Cichlids
1 Upside Down Catfish
0.0.2 Bullhead Catfish
1 Geophagus jurupari
1 Fire Barb
0.0.4 Blue Gouramis
Goldfish

So here's a hot one...
You're saying that giving your herp a varied diet isn't a good thing? I've always heard that giving a frog/snake/lizard,etc a varied diet is good for their health and quality of life. Let me guess, you just feed your Leapards crickets, right?
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Randy

I feed all my animals a varied diet of mealworms, waxworms, crickets, superworms, grasshoppers, moths, and katidids. I didn't say a varied diet was bad. I have no idea what you are ranting about. I believe in varied diets to give all the vitimins, proteins, and nutrients to herps. It is my OPINION that a bird deserves better than being chomped on by a frog. If the animals were already killed, I could care less. Mice, and rats are breed for feeders so I don't care if they get eaten by peoples herps, but finches which are breed for pets being fed to frogs, i find that offensive. Plus, if you going to feed it a varied diet as snakeguy88 sugested
Some people take native frogs out of the wild and feed them to their herps. Some of the frogs may be threatened. Are you going to say that this is good. I'm not going to waste a thread arguing about this.
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1.2.1 Leopard Geks
2 White's Treefrogs
2.1 Fire Bellied Toads
0.0.2 Red Eared Sliders
Fish:
0.2 Parrot Cichlids
1 Upside Down Catfish
0.0.2 Bullhead Catfish
1 Geophagus jurupari
1 Fire Barb
0.0.4 Blue Gouramis
Goldfish

Your apparent neglect to answer my question about "can the animals you place into your enclosures for food have a good chance of escape" leads me to believe that your assertion is unsubstantiated.
"It is my OPINION that a bird deserves better than being chomped on by a frog."
Why would a bird deserve special treatment? Is it's life any more important than that of a cricket's, mouse's, or a mealworm's? I know of three snake/monitor breeders who breed zebra finches just to serve as food items.
"Mice, and rats are breed for feeders so I don't care if they get eaten by peoples herps, but finches which are breed for pets being fed to frogs, i find that offensive."
I know of three snake/monitor breeders who breed zebra finches just to serve as food items.
"Some people take native frogs out of the wild and feed them to their herps. Some of the frogs may be threatened. Are you going to say that this is good. "
Zebra finches are prolific breeders and have a very short maturation time, making them one of the most commercially-bred birds. Good luck finding a wc specimen at your local Petco.
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Randy

Fried chicken... why would you willfully feed something that would shorten your frog's lifespan? That frog would probably eat a Matchbox car if you put it out in front of him. Doesn't mean it's good for him. How ignorant! Do you just do it for kicks or something? How sad.
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