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General Question

Breathingbywires Dec 16, 2003 02:53 PM

I'm THINKING about getting a Chameleon however I have heard that there are some that actually stay fairly small and don't need like a cage like 5 feet tall and a gazzilion feet wide ect.. could someone possibly inform me of some of these smaller Chameleons I've been hearing about so I could do some research on them. Thanks a lot!
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Replies (6)

ludachris821 Dec 16, 2003 03:09 PM

www.adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species-taxonomy.html

the most common i see at the pet store is the pigmy leaf chameleon. as a matter a fact they have 2 now and they are so cute, plus they are only $30..the link i typed above will give you a list of all kinds of chameleons with pictures...enjoy

Carlton Dec 16, 2003 05:09 PM

Smaller species that don't need those larger cages will be the "leaf" or "dwarf" cham species such as Brookesia perarmata (armored cham.), Rhampholeon brevicaudatus (stump tailed cham.), and others such as Furcifer cephalolepis (Comoro Isl. dwarf cham.), Chamaeleo rudis, C. wiedersheimi, and Carpet chameleon. The main problems with these are:

they are almost always wildcaught and delicate to acclimate.
healthy ones are harder to find.
because of small size they are difficult to treat for health problems (and most will have some including parasites)
there is a lot less husbandry info available for them.
some species are not as colorful as the big arboreal ones we see.

If you are a beginner cham keeper I would not recommend any of them frankly unless an experienced person helps you set one up very carefully. If you really want to get into chams your best bet is a juvenile (not baby) well-understood species such as the veiled or panther. They do need those larger cages, so if you don't have space for one maybe a cham isn't a good choice. A breeder who has had some luck with the stump tails is Kammerflage Kreations (www.calumma.com)

Breathingbywires Dec 16, 2003 07:05 PM

Thanks for the info. I'm really good friends with "Chimbakka" on here whom has a Panther so I know a little bit from her and she would always be there to help. I also house Gecko's at this point as well. I just don't have room for the bigger Chams that and I find the smaller ones cuter *yah don't ask*
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..she sees in black and white, while she dreams in color..

chimbakka Dec 16, 2003 07:59 PM

GET A RUDIS!!
I fogot to tell you about them. They are FRIGGIN ADORABLE!! go to www.calumma.com and look under what they offer. They are awesome. and, if you don't like them, you can give them to ME!!
~Lindsay
my second vote is an armoured leaf cham.

Dexpanther Dec 16, 2003 07:02 PM

I ould say that a Jackson would be a good Chameleon to start off with. It's not to big, yet not too small. They are very hardy and have nice coloration. This is a great website for the care of Jackson Chameleon's.

http://www.geocities.com/chamjacksonii/

Later...

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chimbakka Dec 16, 2003 08:01 PM

hey, mike has some jacksons available if you want one. he's the guy whos male bred with orion. Talk to me about it later... They are a good choice too. And, they need cooler temps. you couldkeep it beside your bunnies.

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