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Is anyone successful with Drosophilia Buzzatti?

snmreptiles Dec 16, 2003 06:56 PM

I have not had any success with this species of fly. I have tried 4 cultures, and have yet to see larvae in the last month! If anyone has been sucessful with this fly what is the secret? I was told use 10% less water, and still got nothing but mold, I'm about to give up!
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MIKE
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2.13 Fat Tails (Amels, Hets, and Normals)
1.1 Teratolepis Fasciata
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0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius (Citronellas)
1.0 Diamond Back Terrapin
14 Snakes (Tri colored hogs, subocs, alterna, rosy boas, and black milks)

Replies (10)

Scott_4 Dec 17, 2003 06:48 AM

I wasn't.

I think they're a ripoff.

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repunzel Dec 17, 2003 09:37 AM

a friend of mine in Montana, told me the same thing, that it was a ripoff. She was concerned because these flies need a special permit to be shipped and the dept. of agriculture is investigating it.

carols Dec 17, 2003 12:11 PM

This guy is a real piece of work. He's been on here posting as someone else promoting his business and trying to Defame other companies.

Check out some of his other posts on the urls below - there is even one that he puts his own email in it...

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carols Dec 17, 2003 12:14 PM

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=256593,256593&key=2003

jerrytresser Dec 17, 2003 12:45 PM

We have 7 employees working here, as well as several computers. I received a phone call in reference to this thread, and apparently we have one overzelous employee, who had no business posting any messages on this forum. I aplogize for any threads that may have been posted by "repunzel", and I will take the necessary actions to make sure this does not happen again. Futhermore, I know nothing about this particular fly, nor is it an item that we would carry. I have very strict business guidlines and regretably they were not followed, Again, my sincerest apologies. JERRY TRESSER, DIRECTOR OF SALES

edwardsatc Dec 17, 2003 12:47 PM

Yeah, I thought that screen name sounded familiar. If you search the archives there's a few other dandies in there. Hope your comments get read by all before the moderator gives it the boot.

jdj12j Dec 17, 2003 09:55 AM

Who are you folks getting these flies from????/

dartfrogs.net Dec 17, 2003 11:45 AM

We appreciate all of the interest in this Drosophila. I'll try to address some points brought up here.

Permits:

non-transgenic buzzatti require the same permits as non-trangenic melanogastor and hydei.

In regards to Repunzel's post:

The U.S. Department of Agriculture has the authority to regulate the interstate transport of insects that are plant pests, and of transgenic insects that contain host, vector or donor material from a plant pest or an unclassified organism. Drosophila is not a plant pest and is therefore a non-regulated article. Drosophila is harmless to plants, humans and other animals. Drosophila (Family Drosophilidae) is not subject to regulation under the Federal Plant Pest Act or any other act. No permit is required for the importation or interstate transport of Drosophilidae.

Specifically, Drosophila is a non-regulated article under the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 7, parts 330 and 340 (7CFR330 and 7CFR340). Drosophila is not a plant pest as defined in section 330.1 of 7CFR330 and Drosophilidae is excluded from the list of all Dipteran families that contain regulated organisms provided in section 340.2 of 7CRF340. Thus Drosophila is not subject to USDA regulation.

The statement that we are under investigation is untrue.

Culturing:

We have had clients with both excellent and (obviously) poor results. With that said, those who have discussed with us any problems they may have had with culturing these (or any other of our feeders) have had their problems resolved and have begun culturing them successfully. It appears that a common mistake is to try to culture these using a standard melanogastor medium recipe. These flies have a high protein need as larva and thus we recommend a hydei medium. Another good idea is to use a dryer medium than with hydei and melanogastor. Approximately 10% less water is a good rule. This can of course be adjusted to suit your local humidity conditions.

If you are interested in learning more about this fly feel free to give us a call or send me an email and I'll address any questions you may have personally.

Kind Regards,

Derek Rader
www.FlyCulture.com
TollFree Line 866.681.1332
FlyCulture

Homer1 Dec 17, 2003 08:43 PM

Devon,

I am curious. If this species of fly requires a higher protein content, does that indicate that its nutritional value is greater than the hydei or melanogaster? If not, what is the selling point of the buzzati? I'm not trying to be a pain, I'm just curious.
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Homer W. Faucett III, esq.
Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

chamsrcool Dec 17, 2003 09:14 PM

they are abou the size of hydei flys but they reproduce like melangaster so they really are a pretty good deal considering they also live a few days longer than mel. flys.

goldfish food tends to work wonders along with a crushed tomatoe and sugar.....i have about a half inch layer of larvea in a mason jar after about 2 weeks but this is with hydei

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