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Japanese Ratsnakes? (Kunishiri Island)

Shaky Dec 18, 2003 03:27 PM

Wondering if anyone can post pics of the really green ones. I've been wanting to get a pair of those for awhile now, and just can't seem to find anyone who offers those emerald and turquoise beauties for sale.
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

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terryp Dec 18, 2003 03:58 PM

I hope this helps.

Terry Parks
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Mark banczak Dec 18, 2003 09:05 PM

This tangle is two of mine. I actually lost the female in this shot last year to Dystocia. I got a gorgeous replacement from Prairieland Herps at the Daytona Expo. At 4 months, it had all of the color of my adults. She should be amazing. I'll get a picture tomorrow and post it for you.

Shaky Dec 19, 2003 08:09 AM

Terry, Nice specimen. Where did this one come from (or do you breed them)?
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

terryp Dec 19, 2003 08:35 AM

Thanks Jack. I have a pair of breeders. That's one of them. I picked up Chad Fuch's, CF Snakes breeders 2 years ago. I was on his list for a pair of offspring. Chad decided he was going to sell the breeders to make room for some other things. He gave me a heads up and I was able to get the breeders. They've bred both years I've had them. Here's a not so good pic of the mate.

Terry Parks

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ThomasHarrison Dec 20, 2003 08:59 AM

I always keep an eye out for stunning climacs and the ones Terry owns (and a few other users on this site) are the most stunning ones I've seen. It's difficult to find ones that have those beautiful colors.

A number of vendors had them at the last MARS show but I didn't drool over any, however it was a specimen from Prairieland Herpetoculture (years ago) that did spark my interest in them.

Currently, I own 2.2 Kunishiri's and a number of het for albino and albinos.

terryp Dec 20, 2003 08:23 PM

Thanks for the comments Tom. Chad Fuch's breeders were the ones that sparked my interest in them. I went on his list for offspring. I couldn't hardly turn down getting the breeders instead. They were my first Asian breeding that season. I know you gave me the heads up when you were going to have some albino hets this past seaon. Thanks, but I had decided to try for getting an albino. Oops, bad decision. I didn't pick up an albino.

Terry Parks

>>I always keep an eye out for stunning climacs and the ones Terry owns (and a few other users on this site) are the most stunning ones I've seen. It's difficult to find ones that have those beautiful colors.
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>>A number of vendors had them at the last MARS show but I didn't drool over any, however it was a specimen from Prairieland Herpetoculture (years ago) that did spark my interest in them.
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>>Currently, I own 2.2 Kunishiri's and a number of het for albino and albinos.
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Mark Banczak Dec 19, 2003 08:32 AM

Although neither of these folks have any in stock right now, for next season you could try Ronda at Northwest Herps (NWHerps.com) or Rick Cunningham at cunninghamselaphe.com. David at Ophidophile Farms also breeds them but I think he is only doing albino's and hets.

ronda Dec 22, 2003 03:53 PM

Thanks, Mark! I produced three females this year, none of which wanted to eat. They are currently in brumation, and I will warm them up after the first of the year. Hopefully the cool-down will stimulate them to eat. There are some photos of the parents on my website. The male is very green, and the female is blue.

Happy Holidays!
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Ronda Van Winkle
Northwest Herpetoculture

Mark Banczak Dec 23, 2003 04:56 PM

The blue on the female is incredible. I've never seen one like it. Drop me a line if the juvies stabilize after warm up.

cunninghamselaphe Dec 20, 2003 01:11 PM

Here is a pic of one of my Kunishiri.

Thanks Rick

cunninghamselaphe Dec 20, 2003 01:13 PM

another one.

Mark Banczak Dec 20, 2003 02:24 PM

What is the founding line for these? Are they more Prairieland or someone else?

cunninghamselaphe Dec 20, 2003 05:49 PM

These came from a collector in Russia.

terryp Dec 20, 2003 08:29 PM

Darn. I was hoping you missed this pic thread and wouldn't post pics of your climacs Rick. LOL. The lighter bright female of yours is awesome. Really thanks for postingsome pics.

Terry Parks

>>another one.
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terryp Dec 20, 2003 08:33 PM

Or anyone else who has them. Albino climacs are one of the best looking albinos. IMHO. They are gorgeous.

Terry Parks

>>Wondering if anyone can post pics of the really green ones. I've been wanting to get a pair of those for awhile now, and just can't seem to find anyone who offers those emerald and turquoise beauties for sale.
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>>...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Ophidiophile Dec 20, 2003 10:50 PM

Great thread folks. It forced me to go down to my brumation room and snap a few shots of the climacs

This is one of two of my het-for-amel females from good ol' Tom Harrison:

This is an unrelated amel male from Mark and Kim Bell:

If these guys cooperate, I hope to have hets and amels from them this year. We'll see what happens...
Ophidiophile Farms

Mark Banczak Dec 21, 2003 07:33 AM

I got to agree with Terry, they make great looking albinos.

terryp Dec 21, 2003 10:38 AM

I'm glad your arm got twisted Dave. I knew you had the two climacs het for amel, but I couldn't remember if you had the amel. Tom produces some nice climacs. I was trying to keep an eye out if the Bells had any amels this past year. They may have been the only breeders with amel climacs the last couple years. You, Tom, and Rick should be producing a few great amels in the future by the looks of your stocks. Didn't you keep amel climacs before that came from a certain area and population?

Terry Parks

>>Great thread folks. It forced me to go down to my brumation room and snap a few shots of the climacs
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>>This is one of two of my het-for-amel females from good ol' Tom Harrison:
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>>This is an unrelated amel male from Mark and Kim Bell:
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>>If these guys cooperate, I hope to have hets and amels from them this year. We'll see what happens...
>>Ophidiophile Farms

Ophidiophile Dec 21, 2003 01:57 PM

>>Didn't you keep amel climacs before that came from a certain area and population?

I think sometime last year I had a write-up on the history of amel climacs on my web page and that's probably what you're thinking of. To my knowledge, the amels are all derived from the naturally occurring population in Iwakuni Prefecture, Japan. But most of the amels now in the U.S. have been crossed with climacs from other locales both on the mainland of Japan and also Kunashiri.

Cheers!

terryp Dec 21, 2003 09:44 PM

I remember the write up on your website. I think I read it after someone had posted a link to an article about leucistics or something like that that are in Japan. I think Terry Cox may have posted it.

Terry Parks

>>>>Didn't you keep amel climacs before that came from a certain area and population?
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>>I think sometime last year I had a write-up on the history of amel climacs on my web page and that's probably what you're thinking of. To my knowledge, the amels are all derived from the naturally occurring population in Iwakuni Prefecture, Japan. But most of the amels now in the U.S. have been crossed with climacs from other locales both on the mainland of Japan and also Kunashiri.
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>>Cheers!

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