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question about Azureus

ridge Dec 19, 2003 01:40 PM

I have read that Azureus develop much slower than tincs and other frogs but mine don't seem to be getting any bigger. I don't know how old they were when I got them but I would guess 3 or 4 months and I have had them for 3 months. My tincs and leucs have shown noticable growth but not the Azureus. Should I be concerned or is this slower development normal?

Replies (5)

FalconBlade Dec 19, 2003 02:52 PM

I find this a little odd. I've kept alot of azureus from various ages and all of them seemed to mature faster than tincs. Mine usually mature in a year and a half to 2 years whereas tincs can sometimes take 2 and a half years. Also, you need to keep in mind that azures are rather small compared to tincs and the growth won't be nearly as noticeable.

-Bill J.
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Updated list as of: 12/13/03
2.2 D. azureus
1.2.7 D. ventrimaculatus
3.3.1 D. tinctorius 'Suriname cobalt'
0.0.3 D. tinctorius 'patricia'
0.0.1 D. tinctorius 'giant orange'
0.0.1 D. tinctorius 'citronella'
0.0.2 D. auratus 'Panamanian'
0.0.5 D. auratus 'green/black'
0.0.3 D. imitator 'Alex Sens line' (very soon)
0.0.2 D. reticulatus (soon)

Homer1 Dec 20, 2003 06:17 AM

How big are they currently? I have two azureus that are currently about 3-4 months out of the water, and I have to say that I thought they grew pretty quickly (not as fast as my tincs, like Bill said, but they have grown noticeably).

I have found that you can easily get a growth spurt out of these guys by switching to hydei once they are big enough to take them. They can quickly gorge themselves on these big, meaty, slow moving flies (and there should be a higher ratio of nutrients to chitin in hydei). Another nice thing about being able to use the hydei is that the size of their wings allows more vitamin powder to stick to each one.

Be sure you are dusting every day if you are not noticing growth (I dust every day with a Rep-Cal/Herptivite mix for all my frogs). This could be a sign of Calcium/D3 deficiency, and could be caused by a calcium supplement in a form which is less than ideal.
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Homer W. Faucett III, esq.
Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

ridge Dec 20, 2003 11:56 AM

Thanks for the responses, I do dust the FF's every time I feed them with RepCal and Herptivite and I feed twice a day 10-15 FF per frog. I haven't been feeding them Hydei since they don't seem big enough to eat them but I might try giving them a few tonite to see what happens. They are great eaters and I see them eat every time I feed them. They are about 3/4" in length but it just seems that they aern't as full bodied as I would expect them to be. Maybe I am just too anxious for them to grow.

Homer1 Dec 20, 2003 02:34 PM

It's also easy to not notice growth when you are the one who feeds and watches them every day. There are times when my frogs get bigger that I don't seem to notice because I've seen them every day--it's just too gradual.
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Homer W. Faucett III, esq.
Purveyor of Trivialities and Fine Nonsense

FalconBlade Dec 20, 2003 03:27 PM

Homer, you are exactly right on that. I was getting ready to post this as well. I also noticed that azureus don't seem as big as they did prior to keeping adult tincs. The slight size differences can really change the scale on how we look at our frogs.

-Bill J
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Updated list as of: 12/13/03
2.2 D. azureus
1.2.7 D. ventrimaculatus
3.3.1 D. tinctorius 'Suriname cobalt'
0.0.3 D. tinctorius 'patricia'
0.0.1 D. tinctorius 'giant orange'
0.0.1 D. tinctorius 'citronella'
0.0.2 D. auratus 'Panamanian'
0.0.5 D. auratus 'green/black'
0.0.3 D. imitator 'Alex Sens line' (very soon)
0.0.2 D. reticulatus (soon)

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