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Man this gecko!!!!!!!!!!!

RedQuake Dec 19, 2003 08:55 PM

Tonight i cleaned all of my gecko tanks. I do this every two or so days so you'd think they would be used to it by now. Well as usual Nala freaks out.....i tried to remove the soiled paper towels and she came at me. I thought for sure she would draw blood but it turns out i'm quicker than she is hehehe.

She must have been incubated at a high temp for this behaviour to be so consistant.

My question is if she was kept at a high temp will that affect her breeding at all? Will she take to a male or try to beat him up like she does me?

I'm a bit worried cause she is such a beautiful bright white blizzard, i know she would produce some great babies.

Thanks,
Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

Replies (20)

tokay_dude1 Dec 19, 2003 09:07 PM

Well if she is a "Hot" female...there known to bully cagemates and some are knows to be born without their reproductive organs..i think that would only be in extreme cases ..but you could try putting a male in and monitor her behavior . your no newbie so i know that you know lol..what to do if she attacks
good luck

ghostwolf Dec 19, 2003 09:19 PM

LOL!!!!!!!!! My blizzard is a NASTY gecko as well. Mine however, is a male. I have heard, and I don't remember where, that blizzards have a tendency to be aggressive. It sure holds true for this guy! Can't handle him at all without at least one bite. This is after a lot of work and patience. You should have seen him when I first got him! Good luck!

RedQuake Dec 19, 2003 09:51 PM

The thing is i can't even tell if its male or female for sure yet. She won't let me get close enough. And theres no way on this planet i can picke her up to check. She not only screams and bites but she also jumps around like a bunny LOL its hard to catch her. I have two blizzards and the breeder said this nasty one was female while the other was male. He (Bronx) is such a sweety, if i pick him up he opens his mouth at me but all i do is tell him to shut it and he does LOL.

Red

>>LOL!!!!!!!!! My blizzard is a NASTY gecko as well. Mine however, is a male. I have heard, and I don't remember where, that blizzards have a tendency to be aggressive. It sure holds true for this guy! Can't handle him at all without at least one bite. This is after a lot of work and patience. You should have seen him when I first got him! Good luck!
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

RedQuake Dec 19, 2003 09:25 PM

>>Well if she is a "Hot" female...there known to bully cagemates and some are knows to be born without their reproductive organs..i think that would only be in extreme cases ..but you could try putting a male in and monitor her behavior . your no newbie so i know that you know lol..what to do if she attacks
>> good luck

Oh man that does suck. Well hopefully she will breed. All of my geckos are kept separate so i don't know how she would react to sharing space with another gecko. She isn't ready to breed yet nor is the male i want to breed her to so for now i'll just feed them alot and hope they grow....i would really like to know if i'm going to get babies from her.

My job involves breaking up fights with clients sometimes so i have alot of experience avoiding injury....hopefully if she does get aggressive with Bronx she wont' get the chance to take it out on me when i break it up.

Thanks for your help
Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

Justyn Dec 19, 2003 10:19 PM

there is no such thing as a 'hot' female, Crews and his team first used this phrase in 1989 to describe females incubated at 92-93 degrees. Later Crews found out that these geckos take twice as long as females incubated at a lower temp to mature and their unreceptive behavior was taken as agression.

>>Well if she is a "Hot" female...there known to bully cagemates and some are knows to be born without their reproductive organs..i think that would only be in extreme cases ..but you could try putting a male in and monitor her behavior . your no newbie so i know that you know lol..what to do if she attacks
>> good luck
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Justyn Miller
Intense Herpetoculture

StarGecko Dec 19, 2003 09:40 PM

I don't keep Blizzards myself but I have heard a lot of people here who keep them and oher morphs say they tend to be more aggressive and nasty overall than some other morphs. Also, geckos have different personalities. Yours may just be a b&$#h. I would not automatically assume she is a hot female. Not really much you can do about if she is anyway, is there?
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
Sarah@stargecko.com
StarGecko.Com COMING SOON! Star Quality Leopard Geckos
Specializing in Hypotangerine Tremper Albinos

RedQuake Dec 19, 2003 09:56 PM

HEHEHE no theres not much i can do if she is a hot female. My other blizzard Bronx, the one i was told was male is a sweety, nothing like Nala. Maybe i mixed them up, maybe its just her personality, maybe she's *hot*, i dont' know. Maybe she is taking after me LOL (no honestly i'm an angel hehehe) But i do hope i can breed the two... We will see.

THanks for your imput

Red

>>I don't keep Blizzards myself but I have heard a lot of people here who keep them and oher morphs say they tend to be more aggressive and nasty overall than some other morphs. Also, geckos have different personalities. Yours may just be a b&$#h. I would not automatically assume she is a hot female. Not really much you can do about if she is anyway, is there?
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>>Sarah Stettler aka Starling
>>Sarah@stargecko.com
>>StarGecko.Com COMING SOON! Star Quality Leopard Geckos
>>Specializing in Hypotangerine Tremper Albinos
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

coffey32 Dec 19, 2003 10:18 PM

Red,

I have a breeding pair of blizzards and man are they ever difficult!!! My male was a little on the aggressive side when I first got him. I handled until he became content with me. Anyways... my blizzards like it rough when it comes to bonding with each other. They slightly bite at each other's necks for a few seconds then begin their mating ritual. This was when they came into first contact. Now they are fine with each other, but they are not kind of my other geckos. My normal female fights with both, and only my male gets along with the other normal female. They seem to have very high-strung personalities and very selective about who they like and don't like. Maybe your female and male will get along, but blizzards are VERY selective! Good Luck with it!
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0.1 Pixie Frog (Killer)
1.1 Blizzard Leopard Geckos (Roscoe & Snowflake)
0.2 Normal Leopard Geckos (Lucky & Princess)

RedQuake Dec 19, 2003 10:28 PM

Thanks, that info is very helpful. I don't plan on putting Nala with anyone but Bronx so hopefully they will get along. I only have one other male so if not Bronx then Boo will get a chance.

Thanks again

Red

>>Red,
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>>I have a breeding pair of blizzards and man are they ever difficult!!! My male was a little on the aggressive side when I first got him. I handled until he became content with me. Anyways... my blizzards like it rough when it comes to bonding with each other. They slightly bite at each other's necks for a few seconds then begin their mating ritual. This was when they came into first contact. Now they are fine with each other, but they are not kind of my other geckos. My normal female fights with both, and only my male gets along with the other normal female. They seem to have very high-strung personalities and very selective about who they like and don't like. Maybe your female and male will get along, but blizzards are VERY selective! Good Luck with it!
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>>0.1 Pixie Frog (Killer)
>>1.1 Blizzard Leopard Geckos (Roscoe & Snowflake)
>>0.2 Normal Leopard Geckos (Lucky & Princess)
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

z10silver Dec 19, 2003 10:30 PM

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GoldenGateGeckos Dec 21, 2003 11:33 AM

I have found that all of my blizzards are a little more high-strung than the rest of my colonies, and at times can be slightly more aggressive and competitive with each other... especially during feeding time. However, mine all get along quite well together, and I keep my male in with the females 24/7/365. They are also quite tame with me, but a few did require a little more frequent handling to calm them down.

I have a hunch this behavior could be a line-bred trait, and perhaps by breeding only the real calm, tame ones we can produce more mellow blizzards. For example, it seems that my patternless geckos tend to be the calmest and most predictably sweet-natured of all, and if this is not just my imagination, it could be that their dispositions are inherent traits.
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Marcia McGuiness
Golden Gate Geckos
www.goldengategeckos.com

gex53 Dec 19, 2003 11:02 PM

Too bad i didnt know about these blizzard personalities before i ordered one last night, lol. I'm having enough problems with my normal. Well, i'll cross my fingers and hope they get along.

Angus_8 Dec 19, 2003 11:20 PM

"Hot Females" as somebody else said just take longer to mature. They are able to breed and are usually not anymore aggressive than your everyday gecko. The aggression towards breeding males is most likely just unreceptiveness (lol if thats a word) in my opinion.
I think you might just have a real evil gecko, lol. I dont know how much truth there is to the rumors of blizzards being aggressive (I also heard they have huge appettites), but I do hear that alot. Then again, you could have a really sweet kind blizzard so you cant really lable blizzards=mean. Good luck with her though, I hope all goes well with her and the male you put her in with. later
Mac

Justyn Dec 20, 2003 03:36 AM

I will say that blizzards often are very aggressive. Not really sure why though. Most of mine are jumpy or plain evil, even the hets. I do have one really sweet male though.

>>"Hot Females" as somebody else said just take longer to mature. They are able to breed and are usually not anymore aggressive than your everyday gecko. The aggression towards breeding males is most likely just unreceptiveness (lol if thats a word) in my opinion.
>>I think you might just have a real evil gecko, lol. I dont know how much truth there is to the rumors of blizzards being aggressive (I also heard they have huge appettites), but I do hear that alot. Then again, you could have a really sweet kind blizzard so you cant really lable blizzards=mean. Good luck with her though, I hope all goes well with her and the male you put her in with. later
>>Mac
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Justyn Miller
Intense Herpetoculture

roi3in Dec 20, 2003 04:55 AM

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RedQuake Dec 20, 2003 08:30 AM

>>"Hot Females" as somebody else said just take longer to mature. >>Mac

Nala is one of the larger geckos i have. Out of the 6 i bought from the breeder Bronx(male blizzard) and Lily(patternless) are the ones that haven't shot up like weeds. They are growing yes but Dot Nala Abby and Zoe are huge in comparison. This confuses me as Abby my Albino doesn't appear to eat as much as the others, theres always mealworms left in her bowl.

Once Bronx and Nala fully mature i'll put them together with supervision and see what happens.

Thanks for your input
Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

Angus_8 Dec 20, 2003 03:44 PM

I dont know alot on the subject (hot females) just what I've heard from others. Maybe they just take longer to become sexually mature? Who knows, too much hearsay and stuff on the subject than actual facts.
I wonder why blizzards would be more aggressive than regular leos though (if they really are)?

RedQuake Dec 20, 2003 10:42 PM

>>I dont know alot on the subject (hot females) just what I've heard from others. Maybe they just take longer to become sexually mature? Who knows, too much hearsay and stuff on the subject than actual facts.
>> I wonder why blizzards would be more aggressive than regular leos though (if they really are)?

I dont' know exactly whats up with Nala.....hot female or just grumpy. I've got others who aren't to fond of being held either but they dont' attack me when i'm offering food, cleaning the tank etc. Maybe its just her personality. Its frustrating though cause i'd like to be able to have the same relationship with her as i do with my other geckos.

I'll keep everyone posted on how she's doing though. I'm going to keep getting close to her and try to tame her a bit. If i work with her daily maybe she will come around

Wish me luck

Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

StarGecko Dec 22, 2003 02:13 PM

I have heard the same thing about them actually being able to breed, but taking longer to mature, but the incubation tempertaure does cause enlargement in the area of the brain that causes aggression in leopard geckos, see this study

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:9gPumaRZrPgJ:cluster3.biosci.utexas.edu/faculty/lizard/public/IndependentEffectsOfIncub.pdf incubation temperature gecko brain&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
Sarah@stargecko.com
StarGecko.Com COMING SOON! Star Quality Leopard Geckos
Specializing in Hypotangerine Tremper Albinos

aimee_s Dec 20, 2003 12:17 AM

aww good luck with her i hope everything works out!!

i'm glad my leo doesn't snap at me... i'd freak out if she did coz i've had her for a few months and she's loved being handled since the day i got her.

let us know how everything goes with nala!!

sorry i didn't provide any advice

[aimEe]
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0.2.0 African Dwarf Frogs (Hobo & Bobo)
1.0.0 Fighting Fish (Blue Balls)
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