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black pines

DVN Feb 09, 2003 02:43 AM

Hey fellow pit lovers,

I currently have aquired two 02' hatchling black pines! Both are just meaner than hell! Lots of Hissing, striking, some biting, tail rattling! I knew they could be little powder keigs but I was curious if anyone had any tips to tame nasty pines abit! Should I be trying to handle them alot to get them used to people or should I just leave them untouched and hope they out grow this! Any thoughts on which method might work best or any other ideas would be greatly appreciated!

It's one thing to be 22 inches with the attitude problem and then in a few years to be pushing 6 feet with the same attitude, is a scary thought!
Dave

Replies (2)

gila7150 Feb 09, 2003 07:56 AM

Black pines and most other pits are usually more bark than they are bite. They have a very impressive and intimidating threat display but they rarely follow through with their threats. Once they are in your hands and out of the cage their disposition is "usually" much different.
As you implied, the time to get them used to being handled is now. If you're worried about being bit you can wear a pair of thick work gloves to start out. Once the snake is in your hands let him move from hand to hand (like your hands were tree branches)...don't restrain him. If you gently handle your pines for 15-20 min every other day, they will eventually calm down.
Lodingi are great snakes...enjoy them!
Chris

decter Feb 09, 2003 06:08 PM

Relax...you've got a pair of winners. I started out with a 5 ft male black pine from the eastbay vivarium 3 years ago after a 25 year hiatus from reptile keeping. I checked him out very carefully, purchasing on the second visit and declining the adult female offered with him because she was spitting, hissing, musking, striking so much that the store clerk dropped her on the floor!
Oh well, I thought I've got the tame one and brought him home waiting out his shed to handle him. Wrong! He was a total monster for the first three weeks I had him! Bit me three times, almost took my glasses off on one occasion when I opened his cage! Called him Satan for about a week and almost took him back to ebv!
Anyway the short of it is this snake turned out to become the sweetest snake anybody would care to keep and I have no hesitation now whatsoever allowing other people to handle him freely. Each behavior dropped off gradually one by one, until the only reaction I would get would be a quick head turn when I reached into his cage to pet him. The acid test came about 3 months later when I accidentally stepped on him (lightly/slippers) and he gave me the first real hiss I'd heard in weeks. I thought, oh no, here we go again. But I put him back in his cage and he was find the next day. Just be patient...handle them everyday and don't grab just let them glide thru your fingers. If you want to pick them up while they're "acting out" just throw a towel or a hankerchief over them. I acquired a nice female after that who had been tamed by someone at the petstore and just hatched my first baby this fall. (without brumating...I'll do better this year) And the baby came out of the egg hissing and striking and calmed down within weeks...now I hold her up to my nose and converse frequently...they are very special animals and I suspect it may be easier to end up with a dogtame pituophis that begins with an aggressive attitude rather than a very nervous animal. Good luck!

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