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What is the BEST beginner monitor???>>>>READ ON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

cv768 Dec 21, 2003 10:14 AM

I know I've been asking a lot of the same kind of questions around here but I'm just trying to make sure I know what I'm getting into before we do anything...we have many lizards right now but nothing as big as a monitor...I still have much research to do but I figured I'd start here...

What is the best beginner monitor??? people have said ackies but they are quite expensive to get from Canada...the last quote I heard was honestly 1500 dollars canadian=1000 american...

Some people recommend savannahs but others don't...what about niles??? Water monitors are by far my favorite but they get too big...so if somebody could suggest another species for a beginner I'd be greatful...

thanks...
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Chris

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FR Dec 21, 2003 10:47 AM

Any individual or species that is truly captive hatched is better then any individual or species thats wild caught. There are many reasons for that, but I think its more about how the monitors were treated by humans before you get them.

I also believe, you can get ackies for much cheaper then the price you quoted. There are many ackie breeders in Canada. Check around. F

Bloodbat Dec 21, 2003 12:34 PM

That is a difficult question to answer because much of it depends on you. If you hate small monitors, then an ackie is not going to be a good one. You will get bored or disappointed with it. If you love large monitors but do not have the space, then a water is not a good one. You may love it a lot, but not be able to keep it correctly. There are so many factors to consider.

There are some trends though. You already stated a water monitor gets too big. Niles are usually pretty nasty tempered animals. They also get fairly large. This is probably not a good monitor for you. They need a lot of space and very rarely calm down.

Ackies are small and interesting. I would keep looking around for an ackie if you think that would be something you would like.

Savannahs. Most people rag on savannahs because they are all WC. They are a very common monitor (I have seen them in Canada) which leads lots of ill-prepared people to impulse buy them. These monitors then live very short lives. This gets frustrating for more dedicated monitor people and when asked about savannah monitors, these monitor keepers tend to overstate the problems of savannah monitors in an attempt to change the minds of impulse buyers.

In my opinion, savannah monitors can make very good monitors to keep. They tend to be more laid back compared to many others available. They average around 3 feet, not too big and not too small. A savannah can be an aggressive animal and a bite will hurt a lot when fully grown. There is no guarantee it will be calm and tolerate you handling it. They do eat a lot so you are going to want to have a good supply of food available, buying rats/mice at the local pet store will get very expensive if you take care of a savannah monitor correctly.

So, if you like the way savannah monitors look and you are prepared to properly house and feed a savannah monitor, then it might be a good monitor for you. Otherwise, keep looking for a better monitor for you.
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^x^ Bloodbat ^x^

cv768 Dec 21, 2003 12:58 PM

n/p
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Chris

1.2.0 Bearded Dragons
1.2.0 Green Basilisks
1.1.0 Crested Geckos
1.2.0 Veiled Chameleons
1.1.0 Corn Snakes
1.0.0 Tokay Geckos
0.0.1 California Kingsnakes
2.5.1 Leopard Geckos

monitorman87 Dec 21, 2003 02:10 PM

hay there,
thats a good question you got there. i started with a savannah myself and it was the greatest i loved that little guy he was so tame it was like having a puppy. i would recomend them or black throats they are great
kevin El Dorado hills, ca

Dragoon Dec 21, 2003 02:50 PM

Have you looked into black roughnecks? I keep these.
They are medium sized and not very aggressive defensive in general. Their main con is that they are shy, and aren't always visible, all day. From what I have read, most monitors are normally like this. I have not the experience with other species to tell you how they compare.
Perhaps I am biased, Ok, I AM, I think they are the best medium sized monitor out there. And CB will be available in Canada in the coming year. You can email me for details, if you want. Please do your research first, though. Varanus.net is a fine site. Check out the FAQ there, its very very good.

Argus are widely captive bred, are medium, and very hardy. Word has it they are very visible and active. Try reading about those, too. You may enjoy those more. Savs are another species known for their nice temperaments (for a monitor, heh). Hundreds of endorsements can't be wrong!
Good luck.
D.

Carmichael Dec 21, 2003 03:34 PM

Go with the monitor that you are most interested (while understanding your limitations...you mentioned you are not ready for a water and that is great that you can identify what your limitations are). Our wildlife center features a variety of monitors and since you said that ackies are too expensive (you should be able to find a nice one in the U.S. for no more than $300), you might consider a black throated monitor...but these can get quite large so be prepared to have a cage that is at least 8' x 3'. Black throats are great monitors due to their generally docile behavior; and, they are quite hardy. We also have a black rough neck monitor that is about the most personable monitor you will ever see; they reach 4' but do enjoy vertical space. Some savannahs make great pets and some don't; it all depends on the individual. There are many fantastic species being bred by dedicated hobbyists/professionals...do some research to see what grabs your attention. I would stongly recommend that you avoid a nile monitor. Though cheap to buy, they will cost you MUCH more in the long run and most likely, you will have a monitor that is, at best, mildly aggressive. You might also look into a tegu. The giant argentines and red tegus both make wonderful captives, are big but not too big, very hardy and usually very gentle when handled regularly.

Rob Carmichael, Director/Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
City of Lake Forest Parks & Recreation (IL)

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