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Hi Guys,
have 4 tincs, and 2 leucomelas.
Was wondering if it is advisable to keep both species in a large display tank???
Have read in many European magazines that this would be ok, and would also be ok to house Red eyed Tree frogs in the same viv, obviously allowing ample space for all to thrive????
I currently keep all species separate at the moment, but if u guys think mixing would be ok, then i would consider the construction of a larger display tank.
I was considering 48"long x 24" high x 18" back to front.
Thanx again in advance,
S.

Please take the time to perform a search on the forum of this topic. This has to be one of the most common questions asked on this forum.

Melissa
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I just used the Search function and found a large number of posts on this topic on the first try. The Search function results are only as good as the relevance of the search criteria entered.

The short answer to the original poster is that mixing dart species is not recommended by the majority of those responding.

It is ok, but you often get a larger number of results than you can manage. I also sometimes do not get any thing even if I know the topic has been discused before. I liked the old search where one could search all forums or just one. It made it a whole lot eaiser. Just my .02 Jake
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Several on this forum will tell you not to mix, and for obvious reasons. Many of the dart species such as your tinks and leucs can enterbreed. This of course is seen as a problem because you are hybridizing the species creating impurities.

IF you do decide to mix they will get along just fine, As should the redeye with your darts. Any time i find eggs in my tanks where i have mixed species i throw them out so as to not contribute to the hybridization of the species.

IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO MIX OR NOT TO MIX.

there is a loose cricket in my room that is driving me insane!!

ATTENTION!!!!! This is not a personal attack on frogger88 or anyone else. ATTENTION!!!!!

There has been so much discussion regarding this subject, I find your opinion "IF you do decide to mix they will get along just fine, As should the redeye with your darts," is sending people the wrong message.

First, I want to clarify your statement above, is your opinion, "if you do decide to mix they will get along just fine..." I do not agree with this statement. So many people want to mix frogs when they first get them. Nearly 100% of the people I know who mix frogs, end up having issues. Most of the issues involve the death of 1 or all of the frogs. Most of the people who post on this list, will disagree with you.

2nd, a generic expression that it is ok to keep redeyes with darts is misleeding. Clarifying this is essential!! Redeyes will eat thumbnails (which are darts) easily. If someone would decide to mix species like this, you would want to stick with Adult tinc or terriblis.

Mixing species successfully for a beginner has more to do with luck than any thing else. It is too easy to get discouraged from unexplained deaths for someone starting out. Most people who successfully mix are experienced and/or have a large tank.

With my level of experience, I do not feel comfortable mixing darts and strongly discourage others from doing the same. If we took a survey I think most would agree.

Melis
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If you want to mix species and breed them at the same time, you would be better off mixing species from 2 different genus' I have successfully kept D. azureus with P. aurotaenia with no problems at all. The feeding of this group of frogs went well and there was no competition between the 2 species (though the azureus competed amongst themselves which is normal). You could also get by with keeping the smaller thumbnails like D. ventrimaculatus which some of the larger ground dwellers such as D. tinctorius or D. azureus.

-Bill J
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I know most on this forum recommend not to mix frogs for fear of interbreeding and diluting the purity of the species, but I personally have a VERY large tank with a single P. terribilis and 2 D. Leucemelas. (its a 150 Extra Tall tank (4'long x 3'tall x 3' deep))

They have been in the tank together for about 6 months and no problems whatsoever. The terribilis has his own territory between a fern and an orchid and he hardly never moves from that area, and the leucs move all over the tank. It is in the living room of our house and the tank is watched as much as the TV is, and I have never witnessed any competition from any of the frogs or any intimidation of sorts. They all go straight for the flies seemingly ignoring each other.

That is a huge tank, so they have plenty of territory to play with. The main response I would have for you is do so at your own risk. There are some problems that can be associated with mixing inappropriate frogs, but the concensus I have come up with is that you shouldnt mix frogs that can breed together (leucs and auratus for example) simply for species purity, but other frogs can be mixed at your own risk.

Bottom line is: mix at own risk, just watch the frogs for health.

Matt