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I think my leos are going to give me a christmas present...

leosandsnakes Dec 23, 2003 07:36 AM

ok i FINNALY got my leos and fat tails to breed and ne set of leos laid there eggs in the sand and another group, my het blizards laid some in there hide box, another ........

then finnaly on the 15 of this month i decided to check my fat tails, even though i thought that there would be no eggs and there was a pair of them........ and now my het blizard stopped eating and looks like she is abou to lay some eggs soon....

I can't wait...
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Rob Jenkins Dec 23, 2003 08:10 AM

You posted before about a picture of a leo x fattail in an old issue of Reptiles Magazine. Which issue was it?

Fattails are in their normal breeding season right now. Mine usually produce from around November - February or so.

Good luck
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leosandsnakes Dec 23, 2003 09:20 AM

but that wasn't me who said it, i have only got reptiles magazine for 3 years. but as i understand if i were to produce them they WOULD be fertile and one of a kind but maybe not the first..............

and thanx
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Rob Jenkins Dec 23, 2003 10:25 AM

That was someone else in a reply to your thread before. I am very skeptical that it would ever happen. I don't have issues that far back, but have never seen a photo or heard a serious story of it happening. You're not breeding them together, are you?

Take care,
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leosandsnakes Dec 23, 2003 11:44 AM

well i aquired a 1.4 group of super hypos on breeding loan and didn't have a cage for the male so i put him in with my fattail females (2) and took him out about 2-3 weeks later and i wated a while and put a fat tail male in with them and 10 days later there was eggs...... but there w/c so everythings possible.....

and just to say they have been wormed and everything there accualy better than alot of cbb out right now....

well thanx,
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Dispite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage. - Billy Corgan ,Smashing Pumpkins

StarGecko Dec 23, 2003 12:01 PM

before you do a breeding loan

Geckos can have a lot worse than worms, especially wild-caught. Not to mention that fat tails and leos have different environmental requirements.

Obviously you did no quarantine at all, you put the male right in there. Did you not care, because it wasn't your animals? Of course I'm assuming the WC fat-tails are yours, they had no benefit of the male getting quarantined. Really, I'd like to know what the heck you were even thinking?

I honestly can't think of much that would horrify me more than if I lent gex out on a breeding loan and the person stuck one of my geckos is with SOME WILD CAUGHT FAT-TAILS!!!

ARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! What a nightmare.

This story is one reason why it is probably best to quarantine animals after they are returned from a breeding loan, and make sure you know that person really really well.
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xelda Dec 23, 2003 12:20 PM

np
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leosandsnakes Dec 23, 2003 06:10 PM

ok i am young (16) but i bet i can answer any question unless its about spelling, and i had the fat tails in my poession for over a month (but you have to also do petstore time on top of that) and i suck at spelling....and grammer but i don't give a crap, i'm sick, also tired, so i don't care.....

and i think if there was a problem i would have noiced it between july and now...... there healthy

and thank you robin
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Dispite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage. - Billy Corgan ,Smashing Pumpkins

StarGecko Dec 23, 2003 06:57 PM

n/p
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roi3in Dec 23, 2003 08:33 PM

while age and spelling play no part in this..... you really need to work on your quarenreen practices, trust me and i cant emphsize enough, that their are diseases and virus's that can wipe out a collection in no time. some work quickly and can incubate in days while others can sit and lie dormant for long periods of time, thing is MOST of the diseases and virus's can not be tested for,except post mordom and chances are by that time, it might very well be too late for your collection .... a MINIMUM of three months quarenteeen is a MUST, period but six months is better and sometimes on WC or animals exibitng certain behaviors 9 months to a year might be waranted. so little is know about reptile medicine ,parasites and virus's... i mean come on vets are still using dog and cat meds on retiles shoot in some cases equine meds, im not saying this is bad not in the least in fact this is the norm but sooo little is known i would not chance my stuff to such a short quarenteen period......... sarah was maybe harsh but i think she ment well read past the harshness and head her advice
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xelda Dec 25, 2003 05:13 AM

Geckos can carry disease-causing pathogens without showing symptoms. Just because you deworm them doesn't mean that you've eliminated all or even most of the problems. Deworming medications themselves are not full-proof solutions since larvae can migrate and encyst in other parts of the body where they can stay for months, rendering the medication useless. (But the meds were already useless against larvae anyway.) Dewormers are also ineffective against protozoa, and there are a great many varieties that can multiply rapidly within a small enclosure. Coccidia, flagellates, etc. are pretty common particularly with WC specimens.

Can a gecko harbor that kind of stuff without showing symptoms? Heck, yeah! Just because they look healthy doesn't mean squat. Animals, particularly WC, can hide illnesses for long periods of time. That's what they're supposed to do for survival.

For example, I've had two leos since July. Perfectly healthy animals with fantastic appetites, normal, solid poops, inquisitive attitudes, you name it. They were able to gain weight in my care without any problems. Just to be safe, I had fecal tests done on them, and both were confirmed to have pinworms. Ok, fine, I figured. Pinworms are common, and they don't always show symptoms. However, on a follow-up fecal months later, they were diagnosed with hookworms. I -know- they didn't get it from my other leos and it didn't come from the food source; they had to have been carrying the worms the whole time. It really took me by surprise that they had hookworms. I never would have guessed, because they had never showed any symptoms at all. But here they were, suddenly pooping out heaps of white skinny worms that I could see with my own eyes.
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